Another School Shooting-GA High School

[donmorgan66]

President Brandon has been briefed.

Be ready for more "Anti-Gun Political Stuff".

Aloha, Mark

I cannot believe how fast the Biden administration. And people on social media Facebook tick tock etc has labeled us as bad and unresponsible gun owners to have this keep happening. I tried to explain to them that the parents that are the guardians of these children need to spend more time in their children's life but probably circumvent 75 to 80% of these problems knowing what's going on in their child's life. And it's the parents again a human being that was irresponsible for education and securement of such firearms. I tried telling that just because we own firearms don't make us all a risk or bad people. I feel that we all have to be underground gun owners and pack silently in society to be the protectors of the bad and evil people.

 

[Alexx1401]

Mom also lived 200+ miles away at her parents house with two younger siblings, so I doubt she's looking at criminal liability like Ethan Crumbly's folks.

(FWIW when I read the Trump shooter's search history included researching the Ethan Crumbly case, my bet is he was trying to figure out if his parents would get in trouble for his actions.)

I remember reading that and did not even think of that part. Since he had to know he was going to go out feet first have to wonder if he was not hoping to stick it to his parents on the way out by using their gun.

 

[TTSX]

Somewhat related, I'd be curious to see how many parents think of themselves as good or responsible just because they're teaching their kids along their own world views so of course, they must be good at it...

When it all comes out in the wash, I had/have a very good father who was also a very poor father. I was disciplined, had my needs met (food, shelter, medical) and learned right from wrong (or what is deemed right/wrong by society) but I was also neglected in that I was never given "the talk" or shown how to build a deck, change oil etc. I was made fun of, my accomplishments were downplayed and I think he generally resented my existence despite having adopted me. But he also supported my decisions, even ones he disagreed with and let me become my own man.


I find myself wondering if he sees himself as a good father or a poor one? What about society? How would they judge him as a father by watching my actions without knowing the full story?




What I'm saying is, I'm sure the father made some mistakes. But he isn't the one who pulled the trigger.

 

[nammac]

Somewhat related, I'd be curious to see how many parents think of themselves as good or responsible just because they're teaching their kids along their own world views so of course, they must be good at it...

When it all comes out in the wash, I had/have a very good father who was also a very poor father. I was disciplined, had my needs met (food, shelter, medical) and learned right from wrong (or what is deemed right/wrong by society) but I was also neglected in that I was never given "the talk" or shown how to build a deck, change oil etc. I was made fun of, my accomplishments were downplayed and I think he generally resented my existence despite having adopted me. But he also supported my decisions, even ones he disagreed with and let me become my own man.


I find myself wondering if he sees himself as a good father or a poor one? What about society? How would they judge him as a father by watching my actions without knowing the full story?




What I'm saying is, I'm sure the father made some mistakes. But he isn't the one who pulled the trigger.

Although he didn't pull the trigger, he empowered his son, who was known to have issues and mental health issues. It's not like dad lived on the east coast. He knew his son threatened to shoot up a school, so what's dad do, here son here's a nice new AR, Merry Christmas and happy hunting…

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

Somewhat related, I'd be curious to see how many parents think of themselves as good or responsible just because they're teaching their kids along their own world views so of course, they must be good at it...

I mean, having read it I wouldn't wish it on anyone else, but . . .

 

[TTSX]

Although he didn't pull the trigger, he empowered his son, who was known to have issues and mental health issues. It's not like dad lived on the east coast. He knew his son threatened to shoot up a school, so what's dad do, here son here's a nice new AR, Merry Christmas and happy hunting…

I wrote out several lengthy replies to this. And deleted them all. The fact is, you're right. This was a big screw up.

And it still comes down to the killer pulling the trigger. Nobody else's brain moved his finger.

I would hate to see my father, despite my own feelings toward him good or bad, be given credit for my accomplishments or take the blame for my mistakes. Yet I know society will do exactly that...

 

[nammac]

I wrote out several lengthy replies to this. And deleted them all. The fact is, you're right. This was a big screw up.

And it still comes down to the killer pulling the trigger. Nobody else's brain moved his finger.

I would hate to see my father, despite my own feelings toward him good or bad, be given credit for my accomplishments or take the blame for my mistakes. Yet I know society will do exactly that...

And being a parent of a child that's on the Autism Spectrum, it gives me a different perspective. She knows there's guns in the house, she see's me reloading, but I've never engaged her in conversations about firearms. Only have instructed her that if she sees a gun, get a responsible parent or adult to take control of it and secure it, but she's not to touch it. And she has no interest in them.

Her interests are ice hockey and motorsports (Indy, F1 & Moto GP), so I indulge those things for her. We go to Winterhawks games, planning a trip or two to see Kracken games in Seattle this season. Took her to Indy car at PIR last year, this year we made an event of it with a 3 day Champions pass. I know her and how she thinks. I police her social media, because she doesn't have those filters we have, I need to ensure she's not creating any situations that would be harmful for her. We discuss things that can be harmful. We have conversations about what to do and what not to do, about awareness and always be looking out for danger and potential threats. We discuss how one deals with feelings, good, bad and indifferent.

I spend quality time with her, sometimes just watching her playing innocuous online games with her friends. It's important I know what's going on in her world and make sure she has a tool set for dealing with situations. Things you and I would do naturally without thinking, she requires a toolset and reminders.

Academically she's a wiz, extremely bright, can teach herself by simply reading. But has shown no common sense filter at all. She knows if the pot is steaming, it's hot, don't touch it. It's the subtle things she struggles with so I try to point those out to her.

Why am I saying all this? Because when you have a child that needs additional help, it's the parent's responsibility to provide that help and equip that child to be a successful and productive adult. As an involved parent, you'd know if there's issues that need to be addressed or situations that need to be avoided. And thus my guns are locked up with the exception of the one on my hip. Its my responsibility.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

Bodycam video of the 2023 interview after Fed said he threatened online to shoot up a school.

View: https://youtu.be/Cmlo0JRiy_s?si=Pog_X4_CyXUNA7sL

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

Volusia Sheriff's Office on Instagram

4,299 likes, 225 comments - volusia.sheriff on September 13, 2024

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[ilikegunspdx]

Colt gray's mother charged with false imprisonment etc. real winners in that family. Must be drug addict

Mom of alleged Georgia school shooter Colt Gray charged with abusing her own mother, taping her to chair: report

Marcee Gray has been accused of taping her elderly mother to a chair, stealing her phone and damaging her home, according to a report.

nypost.com

 

[Alexx1401]

Colt gray's mother charged with false imprisonment etc. real winners in that family. Must be drug addict
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Mom of alleged Georgia school shooter Colt Gray charged with abusing her own mother, taping her to chair: report

Marcee Gray has been accused of taping her elderly mother to a chair, stealing her phone and damaging her home, according to a report.

nypost.com

Sounds like quite the family

 

[Lilhigbee]

Since the dad is being charged too, maybe they can get a family cell and save everyone some money!!