9mm on pitbull attacks

Andy54Hawken · Aug 23, 2024

Spears you say....yep...I have a couple of them.
The one shown below...as well as a copy of a Buffalo lance with trade iron point.
And while I ain't Conan...I have found that the old army bayonet drills work well with a spear.
Andy

Thrusting Spear

Andy54Hawken
Aug 19, 2024

Howard1955 · Aug 23, 2024

Certaindeaf said:
Shoot it anywhere in the spine and it'll probably let your critter go since it now has a shattered spine.

Excellent, as usual, C-deaf!

Certaindeaf · Aug 23, 2024

Howard1955 said:
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Excellent, as usual, C-deaf!

I mean, dang.

Bacchus · Aug 23, 2024

I have two related stories, nearly interesting.

1. 25 years ago a colleague had a pit bull, and when the pit grabbed another dog by the ... throat, I think ... the colleague first tried to pry the pit's jaws open; then he tried grabbing the pit by the nuts and squeezing; and last he tried twisting the pit's nuts. None of those three worked, I don't remember how he finally succeeded. The colleague told me a pit's jaw will lock into place, and only the pit has the key. The point is a pit can overlook a lot of pain.

2. I read a forum post a couple decades ago where a guy was asked by a neighbor to dispatch the neighbor's dog, as it was too dangerous around people. The guy agreed and took the dog out into the woods, and then put a .22 pistol in the dog's ear and shot, thinking that would drop the dog immediately (DRT!). The dog was startled, then started sprinting out away from the man. After 50 yards or so the dog turned around and started sprinting back towards the man, growling and baring teeth. The dog got within about 15 yards of the man when it slightly diverted into a pond full of ice cold water. The shock of the frigid water snapped the dog's adrenaline and it succumbed right there.

RVTECH · Aug 23, 2024

Bacchus said:
The point is a pit can overlook a lot of pain.

A few years ago a friend of mine told me he was out walking his dog at night along the Deschutes river when a pit came out of nowhere and grabbed his dog.

He told me he began beating on it's head with a full size mag lite to no effect.

It eventually opened up and let it go but he said he couldn't believe how many hits it took.

I told him I would meet up with him some night and go walk with him as I would be 'carrying' and well, if we encountered the pit what 'might' take place - but he didn't want any of that....

Joe13 · Aug 23, 2024

Bacchus said:
I have two related stories, nearly interesting.

1. 25 years ago a colleague had a pit bull, and when the pit grabbed another dog by the ... throat, I think ... the colleague first tried to pry the pit's jaws open; then he tried grabbing the pit by the nuts and squeezing; and last he tried twisting the pit's nuts. None of those three worked, I don't remember how he finally succeeded. The colleague told me a pit's jaw will lock into place, and only the pit has the key. The point is a pit can overlook a lot of pain.

2. I read a forum post a couple decades ago where a guy was asked by a neighbor to dispatch the neighbor's dog, as it was too dangerous around people. The guy agreed and took the dog out into the woods, and then put a .22 pistol in the dog's ear and shot, thinking that would drop the dog immediately (DRT!). The dog was startled, then started sprinting out away from the man. After 50 yards or so the dog turned around and started sprinting back towards the man, growling and baring teeth. The dog got within about 15 yards of the man when it slightly diverted into a pond full of ice cold water. The shock of the frigid water snapped the dog's adrenaline and it succumbed right there.

Pit lock jaws are a myth. They have been bred for a very long time to be excessively tenacious as well as bred to have extremely high pain tolerances which both lead to the myth that they can lock their jaws. No dog has that ability, but pits and some larger breeds have extremely powerful jaws.

The best answer to this general question came from a guy with a YouTube channel that is a former police dog trainer and current private trainer for all kinds of dogs but with an emphasis on large dogs that could be dangerous:

His response to another dog attacking your dog is to use your leash and loop it around the aggressive dogs neck and choke them until they pass out.

Part because it is generally the fastest way to get the dog to let go and something I wouldn't necessarily think about is when that pissed off dog wakes up, you now have a noose around its neck so you aren't the next thing bitten.

Xaevian · Aug 23, 2024

Joe13 said:
His response to another dog attacking your dog is to use your leash and loop it around the aggressive dogs neck and choke them until they pass out.

Exactly correct.

DavidG · Aug 23, 2024

Here on Maui pitbulls are pretty popular dogs to have. The biggest reason for me finally going for my concealed permit is literally for the off leash pits on the hiking trails.

foxmeadow · Aug 23, 2024

Certaindeaf said:
A barkless chihuahua now is so small it'd be easy for it to sneak up on you and latch onto your nards.

A barkless chihuahua? Boy, did we miss out. Ours woke me up at 0100 barking at the wind...

ma96782 · Aug 24, 2024

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wired · Aug 24, 2024

Don't try to take them out with a vitals shot . Dogs are easy to hit in the spine. They drop like a stone when you sever the spinal cord.

ktgee · Aug 25, 2024

A few year ago I was riding my ebike on the isolated bike path along I84 in Portland. Nobody is around. I came upon two pit bulls running around loose in the wide area on the path. I started to pass them and they came charging me. I then hit the throttle and outran them and got away. My bike can go up to 28 mph. I wasn't waiting to find out if they were friendly or hostile. Of course, I was carrying my EDC but I don't know if that would had helped if they attacked while I was on my bike. Full-grown pits are heavy and would have bit my leg and probably knocked me down and they would be all over me. I now ride with an extended baton and pepper spray along with my EDC. I also thought of another defensive weapon my e-bike. I can use the bike as a barrier and use the throttle with the rear wheel spinning fast would hurt the dogs and make them back off to discourage the attack. At least until I arm myself.

Recently, the bike path has become dangerous with stabbings and other attacks by the two-legged animals. Prepare yourself for going into isolated areas.

huntpotter · Aug 25, 2024

I have never been a fan of any terrier breeds really. I never planned to get a bull terrier either. Through some messy circumstances, my boy's mom lost her house, and my son's puppy had no place to go. I didn't want him to lose it, because he was quite attached. So I took him in. And got him up to a healthier weight, and caught up on vaccines. He has been a great dog. Very loving with the kids. Plays well with our other hyper obnoxious dog. And my opinion of bull breeds has changed. He's a big teddy bear.
But I do recognize and respect his power of being able to bite hard. So we had him neutered to try and mitigate any aggression. We saw no aggressive behavior in him, but just something the wife prioritized. She didn't like to see his big nards hanging out. I started to call him Nard Dog. But we got him fixed a couple weeks ago.
And don't allow him to play bite, or mouth people. And reinforce the good behavior with praise and treats. He's a pretty cool dude.

huntpotter · Aug 25, 2024

Oh and getting back to the original post. Shoot a dog a couple times, with a 9mm. Yeah, that will kill them, slow them down, deter them. A pitbull weighs 50-60lbs. Any thoracic heart lung spine ear shot will kill it or stop it.
The responsibility of the dog being shot should be on the owner, for allowing it to be free off the leash.
My neighbors old Labrador used to kill chickens all the time. And half way burry them in random spots. Nobody shot him for killing livestock, but we could have.

Howard1955 · Aug 25, 2024

ktgee said:
A few year ago I was riding my ebike on the isolated bike path along I84 in Portland. Nobody is around. I came upon two pit bulls running around loose in the wide area on the path. I started to pass them and they came charging me. I then hit the throttle and outran them and got away. My bike can go up to 28 mph. I wasn't waiting to find out if they were friendly or hostile. Of course, I was carrying my EDC but I don't know if that would had helped if they attacked while I was on my bike. Full-grown pits are heavy and would have bit my leg and probably knocked me down and they would be all over me. I now ride with an extended baton and pepper spray along with my EDC. I also thought of another defensive weapon my e-bike. I can use the bike as a barrier and use the throttle with the rear wheel spinning fast would hurt the dogs and make them back off to discourage the attack. At least until I arm myself.

Recently, the bike path has become dangerous with stabbings and other attacks by the two-legged animals. Prepare yourself for going into isolated areas.

Maybe you can rig up one of these on your bike. Hot dogs!

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