.357 casings expanded in cylinder

[OldTengu]

I'm sure this has been discussed. It happened to me. Fixes?
Best guess is to remove cylinder and crane, separate the two of possible, and tap out with a dowel? Remove with pliers if I can get a grip on the rim?
Experiences? Advice?

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[arakboss]

I'm sure this has been discussed. It happened to me. Fixes?
Best guess is to remove cylinder and crane, separate the two of possible, and tap out with a dowel? Remove with pliers if I can get a grip on the rim?
Experiences? Advice?

Don't have an answer for the removal question, were these pretty hot loads?

 

[OldTengu]

Don't have an answer for the removal question, were these pretty hot loads?

Yup. Buffalo bore Heavy .357.

 

[arakboss]

Yup. Buffalo bore Heavy .357.

That brass did some work then. I will keep an eye on this thread in case that happens to me.

 

[OldTengu]

Got them out. Didn't really take much more than some gentle coaxing with some pliers. Still a concern, and makes me second guess that for carry ammo.

 

[arakboss]

Got them out. Didn't really take much more than some gentle coaxing with some pliers. Still a concern, and makes me second guess that for carry ammo.

A speedloader won't do you much good if you have to user pliers to empty spent brass. You might try spraying them with Hornady one shot and see if that aids in their extraction.

 

[tj3006]

Next time try using another round to push it out.
May i ask what make and model you revolver is ? ...tj

 

[OldTengu]

Next time try using another round to push it out.
May i ask what make and model you revolver is ? ...tj

Its a ruger sp101. Interestingly, some older ammo I received from a member here performed very well, no case expansion. Just the Buffalo Bore. All 5 rounds of that I put through expanded just above the case rim.

 

[OldTengu]

A speedloader won't do you much good if you have to user pliers to empty spent brass. You might try spraying them with Hornady one shot and see if that aids in their extraction.

I'll consider it next time. The other ammo i used didn't have the same issue.

 

[The Heretic]

In the past, I have read of people using a wooden dowel. An unsharpened pencil would probably do the trick - I would push with my hand, I would not pound on it.

I would not push too hard and I would hold the cylinder in my hand so that you don't ben the crane/etc.

I do not recall having ever having this problem, but I did have a High Standard .22 that had problems with sticky cases - I could always get them out with the ejector rod though.

 

[Josh89]

I've never had them that stuck but some of my
Hotter handless will end up pretty tight in my sp101. Usually it's worse if it hasn't been cleaned in a awhile and if I had shot a lot of 38s in it.

 

[ma96782]

I'd be thinking......probably over pressure. Rrrrright......or weak brass or the gun's cylinder/chambers.

Either way.....
Assuming that there are other choices.....
If it were me.....
I would not be using that brand of ammo (or that particular offering) again.

But then.....
Isn't that why.....
We are told to practice with our intended SD loads?

Aloha, Mark

PS.....IF it's your revolver's fault. Well.....let's see how the customer/warrantee service is.

 

[gtivan]

How do the cylinders look? Any carbon build up from 38 special?

 

[Ura-Ki]

I'm wondering what the cylinder bores look like! Not usually an issue with Ruger to have issues with hot .357, and i'm wondering if the chamber might be a little rough or have tool marks for the brass to catch on!

 

[Dinglenutz]

I'm wondering what the cylinder bores look like! Not usually an issue with Ruger to have issues with hot .357, and i'm wondering if the chamber might be a little rough or have tool marks for the brass to catch on!

I think Ruger is the only one of the big boys to machine their cylinders from bar stock, are they not? I might be wrong.

 

[Ura-Ki]

I think Ruger is the only one of the big boys to machine their cylinders from bar stock, are they not? I might be wrong.

I believe you are correct! Mine are all polished from the factory, something I have kind of come to expect! Only other revolver that came polished was my Colt Python!

 

[Dinglenutz]

I believe you are correct! Mine are all polished from the factory, something I have kind of come to expect! Only other revolver that came polished was my Colt Python!

I have heard it asserted that the bar stock is not as tough pound for pound as a forging, due to this and that, but that Ruger makes up for it with more pounds. Perhaps it has other material science-y differences in properties as well.

 

[Ura-Ki]

I have heard it asserted that the bar stock is not as tough pound for pound as a forging, due to this and that, but that Ruger makes up for it with more pounds. Perhaps it has other material science-y differences in properties as well.

I know Ruger uses special alloys in their frames and cylinders, probably better then a strait up forging, but I don't know for sure!

 

[OldTengu]

I'm wondering what the cylinder bores look like! Not usually an issue with Ruger to have issues with hot .357, and i'm wondering if the chamber might be a little rough or have tool marks for the brass to catch on!

Chambers are clean and smooth. Like I said before, the only ammo to do this was the Buffalo Bore. I put 10-15 rounds of some old Winchester white box through with no issues. The Buffalo Bore was loaded VERY hot.

 

[OldTengu]

How do the cylinders look? Any carbon build up from 38 special?

They are clean and smooth. It has not had .38 fired through it since I have owned it, and, while I did purchase it used, it had maybe a box of ammo through it prior, and was cleaned very well (including brushing out the cylinder bores) before it was ever fired by me.