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Last week I was scanning though the NWFA classifieds and an ad for a Geissele Hi-Speed National Match caught my eye.. and as I'm looking at it the seller dropped the price from $175 which was good, down to $150. If you know anything about me, I'm always lookin for a good a good deal... and $150 for a $280 trigger was too good to pass up. I bought it intending on using it for trades or to make a buck or two at the next gun show. Problem is there is no such thing as a good deal on AR parts because I usually end up loving it, and any parts that get replaced become the beginnings of a new build...
That is exactly what happened here.
I have a trigger jig that I use to test and fine tune my Milspec triggers, and I decided I needed to play with the new trigger to see what made Bill think was worth nearly $300. And after watching the set up video on YouTube and fine tuning it for the better part of an hour I was sold....
The Geissele ended up in my SPR, bringing the total invested into that build to serious "I don't wanna think about it" territory.... and of course the POF trigger needed a new home.
Luckily
the guy I bought the trigger from also gave me a smokin deal on a Aero build kit, and the week before I got a great deal on a Noveske KX5 from another member, so it only made sense to start another build... and this was born....
A 1k+ rifle from a trigger and a muzzle device...(I fully intended on selling the build kit)
Now the wife is pissed, my gun money stash below critical, and I'm scrambling to sell other stuff to bring it back up in case another good deal comes along.
I regress... back to the triggers:
I think I might be a convert(sort of). it took Bill Geissele's best to turn me though. I've tried some other 2S triggers... Other Geissele's, Rock Rivers, Ruger Elite 452, etc... and I've always leaned towards a nice crisp single stage trigger. The POF is my go to. Nice glass rod break... predictable and consistent. After listening to Bill explain the concepts of a two stage trigger, and then feeling what an <8 oz second stage brake feels like... I'm way more comfortable having that first stage there. That light of a trigger is held by about half the width of a hair on the sere.
This is a screenshot from Geissele showing the different pull weights depending on what spring set you order.
The one I bought had the "service rifle" spring set which has a trigger spring equal to what you may find under a 1 ton Chevy to give the first stage enough tension to pass the 4.5lb minimum weight at SR compititions, but the hammer spring is the same as the match rifle to give it as light a second stage as possible. I dug through my parts and found a suitable trigger spring to get the first stage down to about 1.5 lbs, and set the second stage to about 8oz. for a total of about 2 pounds... a full 2.5 less than the POF.
It's scary light, but I banged the crap out of it when it was in the jig... slammed on the table, threw it against the wall, and it didn't go off once. Bill says it's perfectly safe, but it's seems like once that first stage is pulled, all I have to do is think about it and it brakes. I'll make an exception to my single stage preference just this once. Overall I still prefer single stage triggers. I can get a good one for $50 and a great one for $150. It took a rare deal on a super expensive, and arguably the best two stage trigger to get me to switch one rifle.
Maybe I'll get used to it and they will grow on me. We will see.
That is exactly what happened here.
I have a trigger jig that I use to test and fine tune my Milspec triggers, and I decided I needed to play with the new trigger to see what made Bill think was worth nearly $300. And after watching the set up video on YouTube and fine tuning it for the better part of an hour I was sold....
The Geissele ended up in my SPR, bringing the total invested into that build to serious "I don't wanna think about it" territory.... and of course the POF trigger needed a new home.
Luckily
the guy I bought the trigger from also gave me a smokin deal on a Aero build kit, and the week before I got a great deal on a Noveske KX5 from another member, so it only made sense to start another build... and this was born.... 
A 1k+ rifle from a trigger and a muzzle device...(I fully intended on selling the build kit
)Now the wife is pissed, my gun money stash below critical, and I'm scrambling to sell other stuff to bring it back up in case another good deal comes along.
I regress... back to the triggers:
I think I might be a convert(sort of). it took Bill Geissele's best to turn me though. I've tried some other 2S triggers... Other Geissele's, Rock Rivers, Ruger Elite 452, etc... and I've always leaned towards a nice crisp single stage trigger. The POF is my go to. Nice glass rod break... predictable and consistent. After listening to Bill explain the concepts of a two stage trigger, and then feeling what an <8 oz second stage brake feels like... I'm way more comfortable having that first stage there. That light of a trigger is held by about half the width of a hair on the sere.
This is a screenshot from Geissele showing the different pull weights depending on what spring set you order.
The one I bought had the "service rifle" spring set which has a trigger spring equal to what you may find under a 1 ton Chevy to give the first stage enough tension to pass the 4.5lb minimum weight at SR compititions, but the hammer spring is the same as the match rifle to give it as light a second stage as possible. I dug through my parts and found a suitable trigger spring to get the first stage down to about 1.5 lbs, and set the second stage to about 8oz. for a total of about 2 pounds... a full 2.5 less than the POF.
It's scary light, but I banged the crap out of it when it was in the jig... slammed on the table, threw it against the wall, and it didn't go off once. Bill says it's perfectly safe, but it's seems like once that first stage is pulled, all I have to do is think about it and it brakes. I'll make an exception to my single stage preference just this once. Overall I still prefer single stage triggers. I can get a good one for $50 and a great one for $150. It took a rare deal on a super expensive, and arguably the best two stage trigger to get me to switch one rifle.
Maybe I'll get used to it and they will grow on me. We will see.
