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You could be confungled to see what appears to be an old wristwatch on any gun forum, and worser yet, on part of a gun-related forum that talks about muzzleloading firearms. Well, folks, stick around and you may well leave better-informed than when you arrove.
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Well, if you've stuck with me thus far, you deserve to be told the story of how I acquired this lovely old timepiece, a treasured possession that has been in my care since early 1987.

We were shooting over at Barton road ranges, the long ranges belonging jointly to the Army and Cambridge University OCT, one fine spring morning of that year. We were hosting a bunch of fellow BP shooters from our sister branch of the Vintage Arms Association. This is a group of likeminded shooters who are firmly of the opinion that little or less was added to the lexicon of firearms inventiveness after 1933. I'm not certain how this rather odd date was settled on, but it is no real concern of mine, as none of my collection at that time included anything that hadn't either been designed, or made, before that date. In case you're wondering, replicas of pre-1933 guns were allowed.

I was shooting a .577 Enfield three-band rifle, more in hope than in expectation, at a target a scant 600 yards away, with great lack of success thus far, when I was snuck up on by one of the guests [after I'd taken note of yet another carefully documented 'miss'].

The conversation went like this - more or less - Sorry to trouble you, ol' bean, quothe he, but Roger over there advises me that you are shooting a .577cal Minié bullet.

I admitted that that was nothing less than the solemn truth.

In that case, since you are slinging them down-range at a rate that is sufficiently impressive to persuade me that you have more than you need, can you spare a few for a fellow-shooter who has travelled over a hundred miles to shoot today, but had, in the crazy rush to get out, forgotten his 'blank' bullets?

In a manic fit of generosity, much taken by his plight [who has NOT done something like it at some time, like a bolt, or the wrong bolt?], I told him to help himself to my bulging bag o'bullets. He must have taken about fifty or sixty before my generosity got replaced by anguish, but he did stop in the end.

Some time later, at the close of play, and after the few trophies had changed hands - a yearly event, but not one in which I participated, again, an annual event - he returned.

As you know, I came third in the comp, he said, shooting those bullets you made, so is there any chance of you making any more for me for next time we come over?

It seems that he BOUGHT his Minié bullets from a supplier 'oop North, rather than make them as most of us do, by melting down lead and mould.

Of course I can, I heard myself saying - I'll bring them over next month.

In that case, I'll make recompense to you in a novel form - I note that you are wearing a large and impressive timepiece there [a 1971 Omega Flightmaster] - I have a similarly large and impressive timepiece, a Britlong or something like that, to swap for the bullets.

I agreed to the deal, after all, making bullets is no real hardship, as anybody who does it can readily testify, and is both rewarding and therapeutic in the extreme. Besides, I'd heard of the watch of which he spoge and was keen to find out what it might actually be.

The month passed and we met again, and he arrived and came straight over to me. Here y'are, he said, here's the Britlong I told you about, handing over a small but well-filled clear plastic bag. I WAS, I could see from the dial, indeed a Breitling Navitimer, but there was a catch. It was actually a Breitling Navitimer KIT. Completely dismantled by his deft but daft young son, it had languished in a sideboard for a few years while he debated what to do with it, having been advised that putting it back together may well involve a donation of around a thousand English pounds to the watchmaking specialists.

I thanked him for his generosity and went home later, afume at what I saw initially as a bad deal, until I remembered the little advertisement on the notice board in our officers' mess, offering clock and watch repairs carried out by a skilled horologist and instrument technician who worked in one of our on-base squadrons. To cut a long story short, he was so keen to have a Breitling to play with that he waived all charges, excepting that whatever he had to pay out for parts, I would pay double. As it turned out, the hour hand was missing, but friends, even back in 1987 that cost around $50. So, for a total of $100, I had a timepiece that would grace my wrist almost daily until it was serviced back in 2010, and until three weeks ago, when the mainspring busted, to use a technical term.

I got it back today, it having cost me £695 to repair and service. As of today, that is $938.25.

Was it REALLY worth it?

Well, yes. As I left the fixer-upper's dealership, he looked at me wistishly, I've just looked up the history of your watch in the Breitling records, spoge he - such-and-such serial number, triple white chrono dials, AND the rare 'double-airplane' logo and an original 806 Venus movement - it ought to be insured for around £8000 or so....
 
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That's a good looking time piece.

For some reason, one of the things I inherited from my Dad was his love of watches. He had quite a few, but almost all mid to low cost.

Over the years, I stopped wearing metal band analog watches because of working in a semiconductor fab. Even when I became an engineer and spent most of my time outside of the fab, I still wore digital watches. These past few years, I have realized that the smart watch is just a dream... for the cost of a good watch you have on your wrist an instrument that brings a lot to offer but due to planned obsolescence eventually becomes just a time piece. I had a 2016 3rd generation Samsung Gear S3 that used to handle calls like Agent Smart talking through his shoes or what you'd imagine Dick Tracy would be using. But by 2021, calls would drop or the people on the other end couldn't hear me. Some of the other high tech functions still worked but it wasn't satisfying. I could read text messages, but replying stopped working.

2022 my son gave me his Samsung Galaxy Watch Active2 since he migrated to iPhone. For a 4 year old smart watch, you wouldn't think it would start down the obsolescence path but calls started being dropped or the phone would lose BT connection.

When my last manager at Intel asked me what I wanted for my retirement gift, I sent him a list of Seiko Automatic watches. They got me the 2nd one on my list, the Seiko 5 "Batman".

This has prompted me in getting out as many of my old watches as I can find. I have a nice Citizen watch that is engraved on the back with my name, and 10 year anniversary dates. I also didn't remember that I had a 5 year anniversary Pulsar watch that has my name and anniversary dates engraved on the back.

Since I literally have time on my hands, I went ahead and watched YouTube videos on watch repairs so that I could get my watches running. No more spending $20-25 to get a battery changed. My goal was to start giving these to my kids to use. I cleaned up some from their grandparents, replaced the batteries and gave them to them.

This actually is turning into another hobby and not as expensive as firearms, computers and cars.

I've got my first watch that I bought here in Oregon completely disassembled because I was going to give it to my son in law but the watch stopped ticking with the new battery after an hour. I removed the battery, cleaned the contacts and reinstall the battery which seemed to fix it but eventual it stopped tracking after a couple hours.

I'm now waiting for the replacement movement to show up. While I'm waiting, I've been watching videos on full rebuilds.

Now tackling a mechanical or automatic movement... that's another level. I'm sure I will give that a try as well.

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You could be confungled to see what appears to be an old wristwatch on any gun forum, and worser yet, on part of a gun-related forum that talks about muzzleloading firearms. Well, folks, stick around and you may well leave better-informed than when you arrove.
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Well, if you've stuck with me thus far, you deserve to be told the story of how I acquired this lovely old timepiece, a treasured possession that has been in my care since early 1987.

We were shooting over at Barton road ranges, the long ranges belonging jointly to the Army and Cambridge University OCT, one fine spring morning of that year. We were hosting a bunch of fellow BP shooters from our sister branch of the Vintage Arms Association. This is a group of likeminded shooters who are firmly of the opinion that little or less was added to the lexicon of firearms inventiveness after 1933. I'm not certain how this rather odd date was settled on, but it is no real concern of mine, as none of my collection at that time included anything that hadn't either been designed, or made, before that date. In case you're wondering, replicas of pre-1933 guns were allowed.

I was shooting a .577 Enfield three-band rifle, more in hope than in expectation, at a target a scant 600 yards away, with great lack of success thus far, when I was snuck up on by one of the guests [after I'd taken note of yet another carefully documented 'miss'].

The conversation went like this - more or less - Sorry to trouble you, ol' bean, quothe he, but Roger over there advises me that you are shooting a .577cal Minié bullet.

I admitted that that was nothing less than the solemn truth.

In that case, since you are slinging them down-range at a rate that is sufficiently impressive to persuade me that you have more than you need, can you spare a few for a fellow-shooter who has travelled over a hundred miles to shoot today, but had, in the crazy rush to get out, forgotten his 'blank' bullets?

In a manic fit of generosity, much taken by his plight [who has NOT done something like it at some time, like a bolt, or the wrong bolt?], I told him to help himself to my bulging bag o'bullets. He must have taken about fifty or sixty before my generosity got replaced by anguish, but he did stop in the end.

Some time later, at the close of play, and after the few trophies had changed hands - a yearly event, but not one in which I participated, again, an annual event - he returned.

As you know, I came third in the comp, he said, shooting those bullets you made, so is there any chance of you making any more for me for next time we come over?

It seems that he BOUGHT his Minié bullets from a supplier 'oop North, rather than make them as most of us do, by melting down lead and mould.

Of course I can, I heard myself saying - I'll bring them over next month.

In that case, I'll make recompense to you in a novel form - I note that you are wearing a large and impressive timepiece there [a 1971 Omega Flightmaster] - I have a similarly large and impressive timepiece, a Britlong or something like that, to swap for the bullets.

I agreed to the deal, after all, making bullets is no real hardship, as anybody who does it can readily testify, and is both rewarding and therapeutic in the extreme. Besides, I'd heard of the watch of which he spoge and was keen to find out what it might actually be.

The month passed and we met again, and he arrived and came straight over to me. Here y'are, he said, here's the Britlong I told you about, handing over a small but well-filled clear plastic bag. I WAS, I could see from the dial, indeed a Breitling Navitimer, but there was a catch. It was actually a Breitling Navitimer KIT. Completely dismantled by his deft but daft young son, it had languished in a sideboard for a few years while he debated what to do with it, having been advised that putting it back together may well involve a donation of around a thousand English pounds to the watchmaking specialists.

I thanked him for his generosity and went home later, afume at what I saw initially as a bad deal, until I remembered the little advertisement on the notice board in our officers' mess, offering clock and watch repairs carried out by a skilled horologist and instrument technician who worked in one of our on-base squadrons. To cut a long story short, he was so keen to have a Breitling to play with that he waived all charges, excepting that whatever he had to pay out for parts, I would pay double. As it turned out, the hour hand was missing, but friends, even back in 1987 that cost around $50. So, for a total of $100, I had a timepiece that would grace my wrist almost daily until it was serviced back in 2010, and until three weeks ago, when the mainspring busted, to use a technical term.

I got it back today, it having cost me £695 to repair and service. As of today, that is $938.25.

Was it REALLY worth it?

Well, yes. As I left the fixer-upper's dealership, he looked at me wistishly, I've just looked up the history of your watch in the Breitling records, spoge he - such-and-such serial number, triple white chrono dials, AND the rare 'double-airplane' logo and an original 806 Venus movement - it ought to be insured for around £8000 or so....
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