Let me start by saying, my .17 HMR was an incredibly easy-to-shoot, and incredibly accurate combination. As a varmint shooter, I hoped these little .17's would be the ticket. Sometimes they are, and these .17's were extremely explosive. Other times, they did not expand at all, and put a tiny little .17 caliber hole in both sides of the ground squirrels I was shooting. So, I got rid of my .17, and went back to the .22 magnum, when this kind of cartridge is in order. Now, to my observation. When the ammo shortage was at its worst, and there was almost no ammo to be found, the one cartridge I could always see on the dealer shelf, unsold, was the .17 rimfire. So, does that mean I'm not the only one who's backed off interest for the .17 ? And, Bi-Mart, for example. A rack full of .17 rimfire rifles, and a shelf full of .17 rimfire ammo, unsold. They don't stock a single .22 magnum rifle, but their .22 magnum ammo has remained sold out. This is not a bash-fest of this cartridge. Just wondering how others have accepted this cartridge, now that it's been in production, for quite a while. WAYNO.