Carrying Guns In car

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  1. lilsqueve2003

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    When I go shooting how do I store my guns in my car legally. So if I was pulled over I do not get in trouble. I live in oregon if that helps. Do the mags have to be somewhere else? Ammo also. Just wanting to know the law on this
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    If you have a CCL you have no worries.

    Ironically that's exactly why I got my CCL in the first place: I called 5 different agencies and asked that very question and got 5 different answers :confused:.

    While it's legal in the state of Oregon to have a loaded gun/magazine there are some city ordinances (Eugene city limits) that could get you into trouble (again the CCL makes you legal).

    If you do not want to get a CCL then your best bet is to have the guns in a locked case and keep the ammunition in a seperate compartment of the car.

    Hope that helps

    KC
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    Ah. but heres the rub. Define separate compartment in a minivan
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    You can't. That's why you can't call an agency and get a straight answer on what the appropriate way to transport firearms is.

    Technically there is nothing in OR law (or WA for that matter) that prevents you from transporting legal firearms and ammunition and there is no definitions of how this must be done.

    The main thing you have to stay away from is inadvertantly carrying a concealed weapon without a permit (locked in the glove box or stashed under the seat).

    The second problem is city ordinances that prevent loaded guns and magazines.

    Put the guns in one locked case and the ammo in another and then don't flunk the attitude test when you are pulled over. And/Or get a CCL.
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    Best way I've found, even before I got my CHL or turned 21, was the gun(s) in a case(es) in plain view from the outside of the car, with mags and ammo in a ammo can, preferably non-loaded mags. And then as somebody else said, be nice with the cop and when he/she first gets to your window tell them where they are, how many there are, that they are unloaded, and where the ammo is. Works perfectly smooth for me every time. Even a pistol case on the front seat next to you and the ammo can on the front floor has been fine for me, the cop was already upset (speeding pretty bad) but when I told him everything about the gun, he got a lot nicer. They appriciate a heads up and you in compleat cooperation. There is no reason to be a dick to a cop, even if they are one from the get go, it's for sure just going to make things worse.
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    WA CPL and OR CHL so I just carry however I want.

    I do, however, keep the mag out of my rifles when in the car/van/MH. The mag is loaded and, at least in WA it's illegal to have a loaded rifle in the vehicle. You don't have to do anything other than not have the mag in the rifle to be legal, just can't have it locked in the mag well.

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    In WA I think you have to have a CPL to have a handgun loaded in the car, I borrowed this from a post on the xdtalk forum:

    "The Traveler's Guide to the Firearm Laws of the Fifty States" states the state of Washington requires a license to carry a loaded handgun concealed on or about one's person or in one's vehicle. It also goes on to say that travelers without Washington licenses may not carry loaded handguns anywhere in a vehicle. Such weapons must be unloaded and secured in gun case specifically designed for transporting handguns.

    from the OFF website:OREGON has no STATE law against carrying a loaded handgun in your car as long as it is :
    a) Not concealed or
    b) “Not readily accesible.”

    “Not readily accessible" (for now) means:

    (4)(a) Except as provided in paragraph (b) of this subsection, a handgun is readily accessible within the meaning of this section if the handgun is within the passenger compartment of the vehicle.
    (b) If a vehicle has no storage location that is outside the passenger compartment of the vehicle, a handgun is not readily accessible within the meaning of this section if:
    (A) The handgun is stored in a closed and locked glove compartment, center console or other container; and
    (B) The key is not inserted into the lock, if the glove compartment, center console or other container unlocks with a key.


    However, localities are allowed to regulate loaded firearms in “public places” which now includes your car. This only applies to people without CHL’s.
    So you need to check local regulations. In Portland, for example, you may not have a loaded gun anywhere in your car and you may not even have loaded magazines separate from the handgun. It must still, however, be either visible or “not readily accessible."
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    In Washington, you can conceal firearms in your car if you are going to or from a shooting event/competition, without a CPL. So for the OP, you're fine, as long as they're not loaded.
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    Here's the entire statute you're quoting:

    166.250 Unlawful possession of firearms. (1) Except as otherwise provided in this section or ORS 166.260, 166.270, 166.274, 166.291, 166.292 or 166.410 to 166.470, a person commits the crime of unlawful possession of a firearm if the person knowingly:
    (a) Carries any firearm concealed upon the person;
    (b) Possesses a handgun that is concealed and readily accessible to the person within any vehicle; or
    (c) Possesses a firearm and:
    (A) Is under 18 years of age;
    (B)(i) While a minor, was found to be within the jurisdiction of the juvenile court for having committed an act which, if committed by an adult, would constitute a felony or a misdemeanor involving violence, as defined in ORS 166.470; and
    (ii) Was discharged from the jurisdiction of the juvenile court within four years prior to being charged under this section;
    (C) Has been convicted of a felony;
    (D) Was committed to the Oregon Health Authority under ORS 426.130;
    (E) Was found to be mentally ill and subject to an order under ORS 426.130 that the person be prohibited from purchasing or possessing a firearm as a result of that mental illness; or
    (F) Has been found guilty except for insanity under ORS 161.295 of a felony.
    (2) This section does not prohibit:
    (a) A minor, who is not otherwise prohibited under subsection (1)(c) of this section, from possessing a firearm:
    (A) Other than a handgun, if the firearm was transferred to the minor by the minor’s parent or guardian or by another person with the consent of the minor’s parent or guardian; or
    (B) Temporarily for hunting, target practice or any other lawful purpose; or
    (b) Any citizen of the United States over the age of 18 years who resides in or is temporarily sojourning within this state, and who is not within the excepted classes prescribed by ORS 166.270 and subsection (1) of this section, from owning, possessing or keeping within the person’s place of residence or place of business any handgun, and no permit or license to purchase, own, possess or keep any such firearm at the person’s place of residence or place of business is required of any such citizen. As used in this subsection, “residence” includes a recreational vessel or recreational vehicle while used, for whatever period of time, as residential quarters.
    (3) Firearms carried openly in belt holsters are not concealed within the meaning of this section.
    (4)(a) Except as provided in paragraph (b) of this subsection, a handgun is readily accessible within the meaning of this section if the handgun is within the passenger compartment of the vehicle.
    (b) If a vehicle has no storage location that is outside the passenger compartment of the vehicle, a handgun is not readily accessible within the meaning of this section if:
    (A) The handgun is stored in a closed and locked glove compartment, center console or other container; and
    (B) The key is not inserted into the lock, if the glove compartment, center console or other container unlocks with a key.

    (5) Unlawful possession of a firearm is a Class A misdemeanor. [Amended by 1979 c.779 §4; 1985 c.543 §3; 1989 c.839 §13; 1993 c.732 §1; 1993 c.735 §12; 1999 c.1040 §1; 2001 c.666 §§33,45; 2003 c.614 §8; 2009 c.499 §1; 2009 c.595 §112]

    Note 1: The amendments to 166.250 by section 8a, chapter 826, Oregon Laws 2009, become operative on the date that the rule described in section 13 (1), chapter 826, Oregon Laws 2009, is adopted by the Psychiatric Security Review Board. See section 13, chapter 826, Oregon Laws 2009, as amended by section 22, chapter 826, Oregon Laws 2009 (Note 4 under 166.274). The text that is operative from the date of adoption of that rule until January 2, 2012, is set forth for the user’s convenience.
  11. cyclesarge

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    I have a pick up with no place to lock anything other than the cab. I wondered about running into a store or whatever and having to stash all my guns (without having people notice) when I went in. Than having to un-stash everything to travel again. To make matters worse, in Eugene, if someone sees your gun and doesn't like it, it's considered "brandishing", but, if you have a CHL you can open carry.:confused: I got a CHL just to avoid any of the silliness associated with gun ownership in Eugene.:thumbup:
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    Yes and no, I have a CPL but can't have a loaded rifle in the car. Check with the law enforcement in your area, that's the best way. Remember to ask for references to the RCW's as well, that way you can be 100% correct.