Winchester 94 30-30

[gmerkt]

I also have a 1941 radom vis 35 9mm

I don't think that is vintage circa 1941, as it doesn't have all the features appropriate to that period. It lacks the take-down lever which was deleted on later guns. This one is a Grade III made 1943-44. Serial number prefix would tell us more. Note the hollow roll pins, another sign of later manufacture. Someone painted the black grips red which has partly worn off. BUT: Like so much WW2 German stuff, prices of these have gotten crazy in the last 20 years. I like these but I wouldn't pay what they go for now, just not worth it to me. I'm only willing to pay so much for history, then no more. In the 1970's I had about 15 of these, starting with a Polish Eagle dated 1936, with variations all the way through to one of the last ones assembled in Austria with the green phosphate finish. I collected these just before Drollinger's book informed the masses that these were cool and historic and they could be bought for $65 or less. This is a design that was never put into production again after WW2. There have been a few hand-made examples made in Europe but those are one-offs.

 

[jbett98]

Didn't the early Radom Vis 35 pistols have a slot for a shoulder stock machined into the back of the grip frame?

 

[64MercurysRule]

That's a rooster.

Correct ...... That's a Rooster with hens teeth that IDENTIFIES as a HEN ......

 

[gmerkt]

Didn't the early Radom Vis 35 pistols have a slot for a shoulder stock machined into the back of the grip frame?

Yes. It's machined into the mainspring housing. These are the "Grade I" pistols, made circa 1940. The actual production and use of stocks for these guns seems to have been abandoned early by the Poles as very few stocks thought to be original have ever been seen. The presence of the slot in so many mainspring housings makes you wonder about planning. I think there were something like an estimated 60,000 Grade I pistols from German production; did the Poles really get that far ahead in production of a single part? Or was the feature on the part continued because someone figured the stock might still be made?

 

[nehalemguy]

Yes. It's machined into the mainspring housing. These are the "Grade I" pistols, made circa 1940. The actual production and use of stocks for these guns seems to have been abandoned early by the Poles as very few stocks thought to be original have ever been seen. The presence of the slot in so many mainspring housings makes you wonder about planning. I think there were something like an estimated 60,000 Grade I pistols from German production; did the Poles really get that far ahead in production of a single part? Or was the feature on the part continued because someone figured the stock might still be made?

If Poland's plan to win the war was to shoulder stock all their Radoms, it's no wonder they got rolled.

-E-

 

[gmerkt]

Here is a Radom pistol made very early in German production. Serial number 204. The early Grade I pistols had the slide legend photoengraved onto the metal. This one, even accounting for wear, had a very thin, plum colored salt blue finish. The Germans didn't use rust bluing for the finish as the Polish guns had; the color on the early German guns suggests not quite getting the chemicals right at first.




Below is another early German production gun, Serial Number 4480.

 

[DLS]

So .....

Why did OP edit out the text in his.posts?

That's universally seen as bad form on an Internet forum and would make me wary if he does end up posting items for sale!

 

[Camelfilter]

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