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Why are the ages for ammunition 18 for rifle and 21 for handguns?

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by schibbyzoltan, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. schibbyzoltan

    schibbyzoltan Seattle, WA Member

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    So I've been thinking about it for a while and can think of the obvious points that you can conceal a handgun waaay easier than a rifle or shotgun.

    I never realized that it was such a big deal though until recently. So I am 19 and an obvious gun owner. I own a few rifles, shotguns, and a handgun that I recently purchased. Upon my rifle collection is a Hi-Point Carbine that is in 9mm. I went to my local sporting goods store to get some home defense slugs for my shotgun along with a 50 case of 9mm for my Hi-Point Carbine. Prior to having to buy it, I'd just get them from my friends dad who stockpiled them a few years back. He wasn't around the area for a few days, so I had to go to a local shop. So I'm going about talking to the person behind the counter and get my shells for my shotgun, and then ask for the 9mm. I go about and mention that it's for my Hi-Point Carbine, since I had read before that if you specify that it's for a rifle, you can purchase it. Not my luck. The clerk asks for my ID and I hand it to him knowing what was going to happen. He immediately gave me it back, and took my shotgun shells and told me to leave and not ever ask for handgun caliber rounds until I'm 21.

    Why is it that I can buy shotgun shells, which are way more lethal than a 9mm, and not purchase for my rifle when I had even stated it was for my rifle. Also, he knew that the Hi-Point Carbine was a rifle since he made a remark that he was thinking of buying one.
     
  2. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    Makes absolutely no sense. Just like more idiot lib-tard things.
     
  3. schibbyzoltan

    schibbyzoltan Seattle, WA Member

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    How can you get something like that on a law ballot? I would love to be able to freely purchase ammunition for my guns. I mean for God's sake, I'm going to the shooting range and using it for home defense. We have gun laws for a reason already.
     
  4. Kevinkris

    Kevinkris Aloha Well-Known Member

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    ive never heard of anyone being turned down for ammo based on age (exception: at least 18). for the record, it must have been a typo when you said you had a handgun because that is illegal and i have no doubt you only legally own guns.
     
  5. Swedish K

    Swedish K SW Washington Moderator Staff Member

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    I remember driving the ranch truck into town at 14 and buying 2 bricks of .22 and 4 boxes of 12ga - no questions asked... Then again that was in WY in a town of about 500 people. It could be worse - with the passel of new bs laws CA is pushing right now they are in for much worse than anything here - they will have ammo purchase tracking, an annual permit to buy ammo, no on line or mail order ammo, no lead in hunting bullets, and they are talking of banning all semi auto rifles with a detachable mag and making all mags over 10 rounds illegal immediately including the "grandfathered" ones that people have had for years.
     
  6. deadeye

    deadeye Albany,OR. Moderator Staff Member

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    You can own a handgun at 18 you just can't buy from an FFL, private sales or gifts at 18 are not illegal.
     
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  7. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Please learn the law before you make such statements again.

    It is perfectly legal in most states for a person 18 years old or older to own a handgun and Federal law allows a person 18 years old to purchase a handgun from a private party. Just not a licensed dealer.
     
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  8. schibbyzoltan

    schibbyzoltan Seattle, WA Member

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    Thank you! That got my blood boiling for a minute. I purchased my handgun through a private party sale and have a bill of sale copy from the original owner stating that the gun is now mine. I live in Washington if that helps clarify any gun laws for you.
     
  9. schibbyzoltan

    schibbyzoltan Seattle, WA Member

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    This kind of stuff makes me scared for my future as a gun owner and a law-abiding civilian.
     
  10. orygun

    orygun West Linn Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I'd like to know of one "gun law" that shows rational thinking... with the possible exception of felons and firearms...
     
  11. Frankenrifle

    Frankenrifle Clatskanie Active Member

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    The one thing I took away from this;

    Eff that shop. I can understand saying no to the 9mm, but taking the shotgun shells back and asking you to leave? Could have been handled much, much better.
     
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  12. One-Eyed Ross

    One-Eyed Ross Winlock, WA Well-Known Member

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    It is not illegal to buy 9mm for your carbine, the guy behind the counter is wrong. It's like .22 ammo. My 20 y.o. son can buy it for his rifle, but not for his revolver. Yes we all know it's the same bullets, but if the store asks and you say handgun, they can't legally sell it it you. What if you had a model 94 winchester in .38 special? Most assuredly a rifle....

    I'd find another place to shop.
     
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  13. orygunmike

    orygunmike Beaverton, OR Active Member

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    Because in the eyes of those who don't like firearms ... some long guns have a useful purpose (hunting, target shooting) .... while handguns are the tools of criminals and should only be possed by law enforcement.
     
  14. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Join the NRA, GOA AND O.F.F. and your state organization if not from Oregon.
    Support the fight on all levels.
    Every person counts and we need to grow all of those organizations.

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  15. Hawaiian

    Hawaiian Tigard Oregon Well-Known Member

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    It is the law and most dealers enforce it. A few years ago, before the panic, ByMart had a sale on 9mm. $10.00 a box with a 4 box limit. I took my adult son, 22, with me to buy some. He was carded at the register. We have a 9mm AR so it could be rifle ammo, but it was easier for him to just show his ID so we could be on our way.
     
  16. GunnyG

    GunnyG The Highlands Active Member

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    Wanna guess how many 18-20 year olds will be able to legally buy a gun, IF the "universal background checks" were ever to pass into law?

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  17. GunnyG

    GunnyG The Highlands Active Member

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    WalMart asks that question too. ;-) "It's for my .45 ACP carbine"
     
  18. 308

    308 ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Platinum Supporter Silver Supporter

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    When I was a kid (10-12) I could buy a brick of ammo no questions asked. But that back in the olden days ;)
     
  19. misplacedtexan

    misplacedtexan Beaverton, OR Active Member

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    seems to be store policies in places for one reason or another....

    What happens when I'm 18 and buy a pistol caliber carbine? 9mm AR's are kinda popular. Am I just bubblegum out of luck till I'm 21 for ammo?
     
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    Darknight Salem Active Member

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