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Slightly off topic but another incentive to quit is the cost of a pack of cigarettes!!!
In 9th grade when I first started smoking for real I paid .50 cents a pack (yeah I'm a boomer).
I just googled and the current average price per pack in the U.S. is between $10. and $14.
That's unbelievable!
YEP! When I quit it was due to cost pissing me off. They were like .30 or so a pack when I started. When I had enough they were up to about $2 a pack. Now when I see them at the store, $10-$15 a pack :eek: I often wonder how anyone still does.
 
Speaking only for myself, I wouldn't have been able to quit without the patches.
Makes complete sense. And every bit as important as using your mind at the same time. Like I said about myself, I was pissed off. WAIT 10 MINUTES for Christ's sake!!!!! And then 12, so on and so-forth! Or maybe? I wasn't addicted to nicotine since I was 17, after smoking for 40ish years?
 
Makes complete sense. And every bit as important as using your mind at the same time. Like I said about myself, I was pissed off. WAIT 10 MINUTES for Christ's sake!!!!! And then 12, so on and so-forth! Or maybe? I wasn't addicted to nicotine since I was 17, after smoking for 40ish years?
I had been doing it for about 30 when I finally made it. Took a few tries. The worst part was work. Where I worked we were free to smoke everywhere except the lunch room. So every time I would make it a few days the hard part was when there was some problem with the machine I was running. The Maintenance guys, and the Supervisors all smoked. So the stress of the damn thing breaking down then the people there to help puffing away as they tried to fix it. Soon I would be "hey give me one of those and I was puffing again. 🤬
One thing that helped a LOT to finally win was Wife never had smoked. So at least at home I did not have to be around someone who still did while I was trying to kick it.
 
Wifey is working on quitting.

Would like opinions on what vapes/liquids/delivery systems to use to quit the "Habit".

Your experiences with what brands, shops, online? Good bad and-or ugly.
I chewed tobacco for 20+ years and quit in one week using the Commit Lozenge's. One of my older sisters did the same with smoking, for what it's worth.
 
For the life of me, I cannot understand why anyone would want to coat their lungs with glycerine or propylene glycol.
Yeah the "it's just water vapor" people are being proven wrong, lots of studies are coming out showing that vaping is just as harmful as smoking cigarettes.
 
Yeah the "it's just water vapor" people are being proven wrong, lots of studies are coming out showing that vaping is just as harmful as smoking cigarettes.
I would have expected to see increasing rates of COPD in youngsters, but the studies I have seen show decreasing rates. I wonder, if you focus on American youth, whether the trend changes.
 
I would have expected to see increasing rates of COPD in youngsters, but the studies I have seen show decreasing rates. I wonder, if you focus on American youth, whether the trend changes.
Don't pay a lot of attention to it since I have never vaped. When they came out I was HIGHLY suspect. Now I keep seeing reports that it is doing some REAL bad things to many young kids lungs. Suspect it will not be long and we are going to start to see the ads for law firms looking for people to sue who have been hurt.
 
I was talking with my friend about this topic (vaping) and we were discussing how eventually, research will find it to be very bad.

I made the comparison to grilled/charred foods. In the last few years, researchers discovered that the charred food underwent chemical changes due to high heat, altering otherwise safe compounds into carcinogens.
I bet that will be the same realization about vaping.
You take generally safe compounds, convert them through heat and find out something bad is occuring.
Not to mention, does anyone know what's in the juice, or what kind of adulterations are occuring by foreign manufacturers of the juice?
 
I was talking with my friend about this topic (vaping) and we were discussing how eventually, research will find it to be very bad.

I made the comparison to grilled/charred foods. In the last few years, researchers discovered that the charred food underwent chemical changes due to high heat, altering otherwise safe compounds into carcinogens.
I bet that will be the same realization about vaping.
You take generally safe compounds, convert them through heat and find out something bad is occuring.
Not to mention, does anyone know what's in the juice, or what kind of adulterations are occuring by foreign manufacturers of the juice?
I'd agree that it would be pretty dumb to be sucking anything other than clean air into you lungs numerous tome every day of your life. But I'm thinking that using the nicotine infused water vapor to quit sucking smoke would have to be better.
 
I'd agree that it would be pretty dumb to be sucking anything other than clean air into you lungs numerous tome every day of your life. But I'm thinking that using the nicotine infused water vapor to quit sucking smoke would have to be better.
Cigarettes are specifically engineered to be dangerous long term, so there's that 🤣
 
I'd agree that it would be pretty dumb to be sucking anything other than clean air into you lungs numerous tome every day of your life. But I'm thinking that using the nicotine infused water vapor to quit sucking smoke would have to be better.
It's not water vapor, its a mini smoke machine for your lungs. Better then cigarettes, probably, but not much.
 
Two FACTS that I think need to be stated in this thread are these: 1) there is no research (or very little because it just doesn't exist in great amounts yet) on the long-term effects of vaping, and 2) smoking anything - whether nicotine or marijuana or ______ - is just plain NOT good for the human body. Period. With that said, I just throw out there that I am also a former smoker (8 years without, I think) and I did it cold turkey and it wasn't easy but I made it. I am also a registered nurse and supposed to be a voice of public health advocating to patients and all those seeking to understand their health. So with those facts also out there, my opinion on this whole topic is that vaping is probably just as bad for the human body - or maybe it isn't just as bad, who actually knows. What we can't say is what the side effects are yet, and there will be some discovered once we have actual data collected and studied. Count on that. If someone were asking my opinion about this at the hospital, my response would be this:

If you are quitting smoking and picking up vaping because you believe it will be a healthier long-term choice, you are possibly just rolling the dice with something that isn't studied deeply enough. However, if you are using it as a crutch for the short term to help you quit smoking and do not intent to make it a long term habit, then do what you feel you have to do to not inhale smoke any longer - because we definitely know that inhaling smoke is not healthy.

Best of luck to the wifey (and everyone still burdened by smoking that is wanting to quit). Quitting was one of the hardest things I've ever done, but damn if I'm not glad I did.
 
Buy 4 or more packs of cigarettes and the book The Easy Way to Stop Smoking by Allen Carr.

Do not read one word of the book without a lit cigarette in your hand. Seriously. Light them off the ends of each other.

Nothing to lose because you smoke while you read it.

No scare tactics. No horror stories. No health guilt.

You'll quit and then gift the book to a friend. :s0155:

Cheers!
 
you believe it will be a healthier long-term choice,
NO. I thought that was pretty clear from the beginning? If not it is now. The idea is to get OFF nicotine.

Buy 4 or more packs of cigarettes and the book The Easy Way to Stop Smoking by Allen Carr.

Do not read one word of the book without a lit cigarette in your hand. Seriously. Light them off the ends of each other.

Nothing to lose because you smoke while you read it.

No scare tactics. No horror stories. No health guilt.

You'll quit and then gift the book to a friend. :s0155:

Cheers!
GACK! :s0170:
 
No argument!

But... you don't have to read it all at once! Just be smoking while reading it, that's the only guidance. It's literally the first sentence in the book.

With the help of that book, I quit a 1-2 pack a day habit cold turkey. I know TWELVE people who have quit after reading it, and ZERO who haven't. It does work. :s0005:

Good luck with your efforts. I know people who have quit without that book as well. It can be done!
 

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