Uh, oops - senior moment, need ideas

[trukinbear]

Are we trying to solve getting it upright where it's at? Or get it moved to it's new home and then get it upright?

It's got to go up a 2-1/2 wide ramp, then turn a corner and go up another. Has to be standing up

 

[trukinbear]

Taking a second look…

I would still take the door off and just get a few layers of cardboard under it and slide it into its home on the side.

Once you get it there then stand it up and put the door back on

It's got to go standing up. It's got to go up a 2 and 1/2 ft wide ramp. Make a turn and go up another one

 

[arakboss]

It's got to go up a 2-1/2 wide ramp, then turn a corner and go up another. Has to be standing up

Do you own or have access to a come a long tool? Are there any trees or other anchor points in the area?

 

[Alexx1401]

Ditto the door. The door on these things is a HUGE part of how much they weigh. Once that's off it should be FAR easier to work with.

 

[edzz]

2x4 's for a track, pvc tube for rollers.
move it on its side till you need to stand it up.

-move-a-gun-safe-with-pvc

 

[gmerkt]

I'm going to ask the stupid question, since I don't see it mentioned yet. Does the safe have anything in it? If so, that makes the job that much more difficult. Removal of contents would be the first step. I've moved a few fairly heavy but empty safes around using mostly leverage and a two wheeler dolly.

There is an issue with the legs on the bottom of the safe. One already looks bent. Trying to raise it upright again may hampered by the situation with the legs. The legs also make it taller and increase the amount of effort needed to pull it up.

Since it has to come upright, how about pushing it over toward what looks like an unpaved surface, drive some spikes in the ground to keep it from sliding, then lasso a rope around it, tied to a vehicle on the other end, and carefully and slowly pull it up? Or is it already around the back of the house and you can't get purchase on it with a vehicle?

 

[edzz]

To stand it up lay a set of short 2x4's slightly longer than the width of the safes base between bottom of safe and a wall to keep it from sliding while you lift it.

 

[ZA_Survivalist]

Wish you lived closer, I'd simply move that for you. Both upright and to the desired location within the house. Outside of firearms, lifting weights is my second hobby.. love stuff like this.

 

[TTSX]

What's that sucker supposedly weigh? Doesn't look like too much of a hassle as far as safes go. You may well need to get "creative" with your planning and do some demo/construction. 200lbs per man should be feasible.

 

[trukinbear]

Yeah, I had to drive 140 miles to pick it up, and I'm glad the little voice in my head talked me out of the 60 gun safe I actually wanted. Nothing in the safe, it's brand new - I need to take those 'feet' off for sure. 400ish pounds. Winchester says if I remove the door I'll void my warranty... warranty against doing what? I've got one more old fart like myself to join us tomorrow, yes it's definitely sleeping outside tonight. The first dolly lost a tire, then a wheel, the cart locked it's wheels, and the furniture dolly (that only had half the weight) snapped in two.

 

[Knobgoblin]

Yeah, I had to drive 140 miles to pick it up, and I'm glad the little voice in my head talked me out of the 60 gun safe I actually wanted. Nothing in the safe, it's brand new - I need to take those 'feet' off for sure. 400ish pounds. Winchester says if I remove the door I'll void my warranty... warranty against doing what? I've got one more old fart like myself to join us tomorrow, yes it's definitely sleeping outside tonight. The first dolly lost a tire, then a wheel, the cart locked it's wheels, and the furniture dolly (that only had half the weight) snapped in two.

Sounds like a typical nightmare Saturday.
Hopefully tomorrow smooths out.

 

[Alexx1401]

Yeah, I had to drive 140 miles to pick it up, and I'm glad the little voice in my head talked me out of the 60 gun safe I actually wanted. Nothing in the safe, it's brand new - I need to take those 'feet' off for sure. 400ish pounds. Winchester says if I remove the door I'll void my warranty... warranty against doing what? I've got one more old fart like myself to join us tomorrow, yes it's definitely sleeping outside tonight. The first dolly lost a tire, then a wheel, the cart locked it's wheels, and the furniture dolly (that only had half the weight) snapped in two.

If it was me? I would take the door off, put it back on. Let them figure out how they are going to know if warranty work is needed. Unless they are made different now the door simply lifts off the hinges.

 

[trukinbear]

If it was me? I would take the door off, put it back on. Let them figure out how they are going to know if warranty work is needed. Unless they are made different now the door simply lifts off the hinges.

The instructions make it sound fairly difficult like I would probably never get it back on correctly

 

[ma96782]

Interesting problem you have there.

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Aloha, Mark

PS....also a cheap o Harbor Freight dolly might help. Or even moving blankets to slip left and right while moving forward may help.

 

[Joe13]

Winchester says if I remove the door I'll void my warranty...

I'd be interested in how the heck they would know…

If you have to move it standing up and it's 400lbs and you only have 1 other person with limited strength then I would caution you to find another way because going up the steps your talking about without at least 2 very able bodied people is not borderline, it is flat out dangerous and likely to kill you at worst.


I'd take the door off for sure - what will the warranty cover anyway? It's a metal box with a lock that can be replaced with a screwdriver.





I understand it's gotta get where it's gotta get but having moved a 4,000lb safe I can tell you that moving big things can be very dangerous and you have to weigh that against your health.

 

[Alexx1401]

The instructions make it sound fairly difficult like I would probably never get it back on correctly

they must have changed how these are built then, damn shame. Looks like its wait till you have more able bodies or go rent an appliance dolly then.

 

[trukinbear]

they must have changed how these are built then, damn shame. Looks like its wait till you have more able bodies or go rent an appliance dolly then.

Both

 

[gmerkt]

You said you can lever it up part way, then it starts to slide. If you've got a surface that permits it, drive a couple of stakes into the ground to keep it from sliding. Then lever it up in increments until you get it to the point where you have enough physical power to push it upright the rest of the way. You can use just about anything solid (firewood? lumber scraps?) to crib it between increments. With help coming tomorrow, this should be possible. 400 lbs. shouldn't be that limiting.

Re. the question of the legs. Once you get it where you want it, do you plan on bolting it down? This is a priority with any safe I've ever owned.

Good luck.

 

[albin25]

Dig hole 1.5/2 feet deep under the bottom quarter or third as wide as the safe and large enough for the safe to stand up in. The hole can be dug as long as you need in order to build a ramp.
As you lift the far end of the safe it will be easier as it will counter-weight itself. If you were able to put a dolly in the hole for the safe, even better.
You may need to adapt to your situation but the "tip into a hole" thing works.

 

[trukinbear]

You said you can lever it up part way, then it starts to slide. If you've got a surface that permits it, drive a couple of stakes into the ground to keep it from sliding. Then lever it up in increments until you get it to the point where you have enough physical power to push it upright the rest of the way. You can use just about anything solid (firewood? lumber scraps?) to crib it between increments. With help coming tomorrow, this should be possible. 400 lbs. shouldn't be that limiting.

Re. the question of the legs. Once you get it where you want it, do you plan on bolting it down? This is a priority with any safe I've ever owned.

Good luck.

Yes, she'll indeed be bolted down. We built the generator shed around the Cummins/Onan diesel in its spot as far up the hill as she would go, but this is in the walkway and not a good location for a safe shed LOL