After discussion in a couple of PMs, fine, $600 takes it. aranoid: No rush, not looking for any other swaps. Tried the Ruger and it's not the best - but it won't hurt me to keep it, either. Not looking for the heavy-underlugged 5" barrel version on the Smith. Swapped guns need to be in similar condition - i.e. the Ruger is used, but still solid and locks up tight. In other words, not EXCESSIVE uses. Oh, and the Ruger is stainless, which means the Smith needs to be stainless. Ruger comes with Hogue minimal grips, and larger set of laminate grips.