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"Struggle with knowing when how to brake in snowy, icy conditions"

So do humans . . .

;-)
I fixed it for me.

Hence, "Anti-lock Brakes"! When I started driving we leaned to pump the brakes ourselves. To stop on slippery pavement.
 
... When I started driving we leaned to pump the brakes ourselves. To stop on slippery pavement.
I still do. Not pump, just tap tap tap. Primarily to act as "another" warning for following drivers.

...I really would prefer not to have to pick grill/radiator bits out of my pintle hitch hook. :D
 
I still do. Not pump, just tap tap tap. Primarily to act as "another" warning for following drivers.

...I really would prefer not to have to pick grill/radiator bits out of my pintle hitch hook. :D
Not only that, but common for me to hit those flashers when I have to slow down unexpectedly. Freeway, in traffic..... It's the ash-holes not paying attention BEHIND you that will get you, in those circumstances.
 
Not only that, but common for me to hit those flashers when I have to slow down unexpectedly. Freeway, in traffic..... It's the ash-holes not paying attention BEHIND you that will get you, in those circumstances.
Yup.

Conditions allowing I'll also give my truck or our SUV a "wiggle" AND stop slightly right of ahead traffic, so follow ons can see the stoppage ahead. If they're paying attention.

The "wiggle" can help crack head bobs & sallies refocus on what they should be doing. Paying attention while driving.
 
I see more and more people developing horrendous habbits in Teslas. The guy "driving" eating a bowl of something and the passenger on a laptop. It would be funny when it goes wrong, but it won't

In my wife's Subaru, it has a camera for the cruise control. In bad weather it often goes out because the camera gets blocked or the windshield freezes. If you aren't already controlling the car it's basically a missile for a few seconds.
 
I see more and more people developing horrendous habbits in Teslas. The guy "driving" eating a bowl of something and the passenger on a laptop. It would be funny when it goes wrong, but it won't

In my wife's Subaru, it has a camera for the cruise control. In bad weather it often goes out because the camera gets blocked or the windshield freezes. If you aren't already controlling the car it's basically a missile for a few seconds.
I'd mentioned before that our '24 Honda HR-v has the keep in your lane feature. I tested it on the freeway by engaging it. Then let the car make a slow curve. Weird sensation. Of course my hands were right there, I'm no idiot. The car won't go but a couple/three hundred yards when big orange letters pop up on the display say "STEERING REQUIRED!". Gosh no kidding. What kind of brain is it the wants people looking at an instrument panel instead of the road they're driving on?
 
pump the brakes is a loaded phrase. few people know how to do it right
winter driving is an art, needs to be practiced regularly.
in snow country the first snow storm is the most dangerous, everybody needs to relearn the skills from last season.
 
Need more local compute in the cars for control adjustments. No time to be running that up to a cloud and back to figure out the next move. This is a problem generally in autonomous vehicles - where are the brains at, and how much does it cost to have more of that onboard?
 
in snow country the first snow storm is the most dangerous, everybody needs to relearn the skills from last season.
Hmm? Where I grew up, the first snow storm was time to get out with your buddy's and hit school and church unplowed parking lots!! Bow Howdy!! That's how I, learned to drive in snow! Posi traction was a plus. And a '64 Econoline VAN was the Shizznit!
 
Funny thing is, we have two cars- my full size GMC Sierra pickup, and (gasp) a Tesla Model 3! I know, everyone here hates them, but in all seriousness, they are very good cars. FYI that the 'self driving' is currently not truely self driving- meaning you cant sit there on your laptop or eat a bowl of cereal- when in autopilot or self driving mode, the car monitors you for alertness. If you dont have your eyes facing ahead, or dont have your hands on the steering wheel, it will warn you, then will disengage the self driving, and not allow you to re-engage it until you have stopped. Too many of these, and you actually lose the ability to engage autopilot for a period of time.

One safety feature I really like about this, is if you have a medical emergency while driving. Currently, with a manual car, if you suddenly pass out due to a medical emergency, you pretty much crash at full speed, with potentially horrific results- ask me how I know as I spent 10 years as a Firefighter/Emt. With the Tesla, while it is monitoring you while it is self driving, if you are not paying attention, which includes if you have your eyes closed and are say passed out, it will warn you, then eventually slow down and stop the car, all while keeping you in the proper lane, and will turn on the flashers. WAY better than just careening forward with a manual car.

Sure we can blast electric cars all we want, but there are serious benefits. And Unfortunatly many of these most vocal have never experienced one and dont understand the tech and safety features.

Anyone who wants to go for a ride with me, hit me up! ;-) BTW the Tesla is BY FAR the fastest car I have ever owned- and i have had corvettes, Audis, Caddilac ats, motorcycles etc. It is insane how fast these things accelerate . . .
 
Hmm? Where I grew up, the first snow storm was time to get out with your buddy's and hit school and church unplowed parking lots!! Bow Howdy!! That's how I, learned to drive in snow! Posi traction was a plus. And a '64 Econoline VAN was the Shizznit!
love gettin sideways, snow time was FUN time.
 
Autonomous vehicles are gaining popularity in drier climates, but struggle with knowing when to brake in snowy, icy conditions


Yup - last time I looked into it, they also had trouble seeing where the road/lane was. Hell, humans have trouble doing that, but are much better at it than an autonomous car. They have a ways to go - I hope they get there before I lose my license to age - but then I don't drive very much, and in a pinch I can have my kids drive me into town once in a while if I have to (the plan is for us to buy property and have living quarters on the same property).
 
love gettin sideways, snow time was FUN time.
I have to say though, that the driver assist that was on our CR-V was something else. In a good way . And that it could be disabled was how it should be. Hope the HR-v we have now is as decent.
 

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