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Saiga .308. A unicorn?

Discussion in 'Rifle Discussion' started by osterr1999, Sep 28, 2011.

  1. osterr1999

    osterr1999 Silverton, OR Active Member

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    I would like to get my hands on a Saiga AK in .308, but have not seen one at my usual shops. Are they mythical creatures or can they actually be found in Oregon? Any ideas on where to get one would be much appreciated. Thanks.
     
  2. DoubleTapDrew

    DoubleTapDrew Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Not sure if there are certain dealers that carry them but I usually see a couple at the expo gun shows (I'd suggest going early on the first day to increase chances of seeing one).
     
  3. osterr1999

    osterr1999 Silverton, OR Active Member

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    Thanks Double. I may have to go that route. I love going to the shows, but it is hard to come home with only one. That's why the wife always gives me a sideways look when I head to one "just to look".
     
  4. JORHAMMER

    JORHAMMER Sherwood Member

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    Gun Zone in Clackamas had a few the other day.
     
  5. osterr1999

    osterr1999 Silverton, OR Active Member

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    Thanks Jorhammer. I just called and they did have them. I am heading over after work to take a look. They only have the skeletonized stock model, but beggars can't be choosers I suppose.
     
  6. trainsktg

    trainsktg Portland OR Well-Known Member

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    The skeleton stock is pretty comfortable. I didn't realize they had 'em on the .308s though.

    Keith
     
  7. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    Yes they are!
    And if you own one, its much like drinking the blood of a Unicorn.. You'll be somewhat cursed.. in the sense that you'll come to realize you didn't need some $2000 rifle chambered for the .308 (And only chambered for .308), that is far too prissy to shoot steel cases and quite possibly isn't chrome lined for all that 7.62x51 mil-surp ammo you've got stashed away.. and also that most of you're shooting needs could have been fulfilled with this one incredible platform. :)

    By FAR the Saiga .308 is my favorite rifle. Part weekend Guerrilla Sniper/ Designated Marksman Rifle part Battle Rifle.
    Any how, back to your inquiry, Like with most of the shortages, they're on back order and will be out and about once more!
    As for where or when.. I'm at a loss.
     
  8. DoubleTapDrew

    DoubleTapDrew Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't worry too much about the stock. If you convert it (actually revert it to true form) that'll get changed out anyway. I'd look more at the price and if it's the barrel length you want.
    Be aware that Saigas tend to multipily. As soon as I finished the 308 I was shopping for a 12ga.
     
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  9. osterr1999

    osterr1999 Silverton, OR Active Member

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    I went and took a look. They only have the 16" barrel and I was kind of hoping for the 21". Sounds like some of you have one, what barrel length is best? I was thinking the 21" because I would think you would get a little better performance out of the .308 round with a bit longer barrel. By the way Double, I want a 12 ga. too. They want $700 at Gun Zone for the 16" with the skeletonized stock. That seems a bit high to me. What do you guys think?
     
  10. DoubleTapDrew

    DoubleTapDrew Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I like the 16" but if you want to build a draganov clone (saiganov) the longer barrel would look right. Opinion seems to be the 16" is a bit more accurate if using optics (stiffer barrel) while the 22" has a longer sight radius if using irons. The downside of the 16" is you lose a little velocity and the muzzle blast is significant (and accompanying fireball). I chrono'ed a 16" vs 20" and showed a pretty consistent 150fps variation but if you handload you could probably optimize a load for the shorter barrel. I plan to add a flash hider to mine when I get it threaded. The longer barrels seem to be more rare.
    $700 sounds high but I haven't looked lately. For a while they were price gouging them (especially the 12 gauge) because the supply dwindled and Izhmash was doing a contract for the russian .mil
    Atlantic shows $550 for the 16"
    K-Var shows $570 for the 22" but shows they are out of stock. I think the newest shipment was due mid sept so they should be in soon.
     
  11. osterr1999

    osterr1999 Silverton, OR Active Member

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    It might benefit me to be patient then. Although, when it comes to getting new toys that is tough.
     
  12. DoubleTapDrew

    DoubleTapDrew Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I wish for the good ol days when Saigas were $289 :bawling:
     
  13. dobeman

    dobeman Hillsboro Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    the .308 saigas are back. Carolina Shooters Supply has them $479 - I saw on saiga-12 forum. I picked up a used one at the Hillsboro gun show 2 weeks ago.
     
  14. osterr1999

    osterr1999 Silverton, OR Active Member

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    Thanks for the tip dobeman. I will check it out. $700 is way too much based on what they are selling them for.
     
  15. dobeman

    dobeman Hillsboro Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    $700 waaay out of line for 16" polymer stock version anyway. There's a version with wood thumbhole stock with trigger group already moved forward, but those are hard to find.
     
  16. osterr1999

    osterr1999 Silverton, OR Active Member

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    I bought one from Carolina Shooters Supply for $504 including shipping. It should be here on the 10th. I can't wait. Thanks to all who helped me find this.
     
  17. FMJ 911

    FMJ 911 Snohomish, Washington Active Member

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    I'm looking into getting some Saiga's! a .308 sounds nice since I already have a M1A. Where can you get extra mags for a .308 Saiga?
     
  18. osterr1999

    osterr1999 Silverton, OR Active Member

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    Online is your best bet. I am new to them, but Carolina Shooters Supply or Mississippi Auto Arms are good places to start.
     
  19. FMJ 911

    FMJ 911 Snohomish, Washington Active Member

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    Good, I'll start looking soon. Maybe I'll put a scope on it too.
     
  20. DoubleTapDrew

    DoubleTapDrew Oregon Well-Known Member

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    The surefire mags work well, and a more recent company Unita industries came out with 20 rounders for the 308 as well (I think they are a copy of the now-defunct FBMG). I picked up 3 and they work just fine for me and are cheaper than surefire
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