Just received mine today - entry operator carbine. What a great rifle - regardless of the cost. Include it's value price and wow! Got mine off gunbroker.com as lead time for new order is 4 - 6 months. After a thorough inital cleaning, I took it out and ran a couple mags through it. Out of the box was pretty darn close to -0- - 2 clicks right, 1 click up and we're good to go. Well balanced, nice features. For anyone in the market, I highly recommend you take a hard look at these.