Purchasing a Complete AR Lower

[Jasonanddeonna]

I am not sure if this is in the right topic thread or not, so please feel free to move.

I know that buying a complete AR lower requires me to do the paperwork, background check, etc. to purchase it from the FFL dealer. If I buy this and a separate complete upper to create an sbr, do I just purchase both, do a Form 1, wait for the stamp, engrave the lower, then put the two together? Or, am I missing something?

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[VinnieBoomBah]

Get a pistol brace and matching buffer tube and make yourself a pistol. Use that as you like while you wait for your tax stamp

 

[Nosferatu]

I missing something?

For the rifle stuff. No.

 

[Jasonanddeonna]

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For the rifle stuff. No.

Seems strange to me that a suppressor or other NFA rifles or shotguns stay in jail until the stamp arrives, but nothing prevents me from taking a separated sbr home? I just can't legally use it until the stamp arrives?

 

[Nosferatu]

The federal government always thinks things through completely and is extremely practical, efficient and economical.

 

[Koda]

If I buy this and a separate complete upper to create an sbr, do I just purchase both, do a Form 1, wait for the stamp, engrave the lower, then put the two together? Or, am I missing something?

As far as I understand. Its not illegal to own any uppers without a stamp. Its only illegal to put one under 16in bbl on a lower without a stamp.

Seems strange to me that a suppressor or other NFA rifles or shotguns stay in jail until the stamp arrives, but nothing prevents me from taking a separated sbr home? I just can't legally use it until the stamp arrives?

Because and ["sbr"] upper isnt a rifle until its put to use as one. Lots of people build pistols legally with them.


I'm going out on a limb here but someone is welcome to correct me if Im wrong.

 

[OrPackrat]

Generally, a lower is just a lower.

Put a brace on it and run it like a pistol, so no vertical grips either.

Submit your paperwork, get your tax stamp, and then do what your going too after you have your stamp.

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

I'm going out on a limb here but someone is welcome to correct me if Im wrong.

You are not wrong

But also, this shouldn't be that hard to understand . . .

 

[solv3nt]

The federal government always thinks things through completely and is extremely practical, efficient and economical.

Spelt comical wong.

 

[Nosferatu]

Spelt comical wong.

depends on which side of the comedy you're on.

 

[solv3nt]

depends on which side of the comedy you're on.

Tragic comedy

 

[TTSX]

View: https://youtu.be/NNv2RHR62Rs?si=mrIiPLsrYNUYsy_e

 

[Ben B.]

Get a pistol brace and matching buffer tube and make yourself a pistol. Use that as you like while you wait for your tax stamp

If you are buying a lower: Make sure the lower is listed/purchased as "other", or as a pistol, but NOT a rifle. If it was sold as a rifle, you need a stamped F1 before adding a short barrel to be kosher. A short barrel on a rifle receiver is an SBR, brace or not. Stripped lowers are USUALLY sold as "other"

 

[Koda]

You are not wrong

But also, this shouldn't be that hard to understand . . .

Gotta admit in the last couple years Ive become really jaded and worn out trying to keep up with all the gun laws. I have a 'cheat sheet' I only updated once or twice in like 10 years. The last couple years its a mess of notes.

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

If you are buying a lower: Make sure the lower is listed/purchased as "other", or as a pistol, but NOT a rifle. If it was sold as a rifle, you need a stamped F1 before adding a short barrel to be kosher. A short barrel on a rifle receiver is an SBR, brace or not. Stripped lowers are USUALLY sold as "other"

If my FFL didn't know that a lower receiver was an "other" and not a rifle or pistol I would find another FFL, and not because of some pedantic thing like "Is it a clip or is it a magazine?" but because if they aren't getting that simple part corRect, what else are they doing wrong that might attract the attention of the ATF?

Edited to corRect the incorRect spelling of corRect

 

[Ben B.]

If my FFL didn't know that a lower receiver was an "other" and not a rifle or pistol I would find another FFL, and not because of some pedantic thing like "Is it a clip or is it a magazine?" but because if they aren't getting that simple part corect, what else are they doing wrong that might attract the attention of the ATF

Fine. We can't always get it "corect", even with Spelt Chequers.

And if you are buying a used lower for cheap to make your pistol, you'll want to make sure it's not already been "a rifle".

 

[Jasonanddeonna]

The federal government always thinks things through completely and is extremely practical, efficient and economical.

I think this just about sums it up.

Regarding a brace, isn't the timeline for free stamps expired while the circus courts figure it out?

 

[ilikegunspdx]

Get a pistol brace and matching buffer tube and make yourself a pistol. Use that as you like while you wait for your tax stamp

Yep or just leave it as is with the brace and not get the stamp. Can apply for an sbr later if regs are coming re braces, if want a "real" stock, or want to use a vertical foregrip.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

I think this just about sums it up.

Regarding a brace, isn't the timeline for free stamps expired while the circus courts figure it out?

Window for free stamps expired March 31 2023.

 

[fxdc]

Why SBR it, you have more unrestricted freedom as a pistol!!!