Poll: Poll....Army To Evaluate 10 Subgun Weapons

[titsonritz]

If they insist on not doing the smart thing and issue MK18s, they should at least stick an AR-based weapon for familiarity and simplified training. I would choose LMT MARS-L9 for that reason and the fact LMT has a proven record handling military contracts and their quality is tops Colt IMO. However, since the Army is doing the choosing they'll probably go with the Sig.

 

[Boboclown]

their quality is tops Colt IMO.

Colt fanboys all over the world are screaming.

 

[tac]

Got to have commonality with the rest of NATO, like it or not.

Everybody else has a 9mmP subgun these days.

tac

 

[nehalemguy]

My heart favors the MP5s...but I think they will find every excuse to pick the MPX so that is where my vote went. It will be interesting though to see how it holds up to testing.

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[Boboclown]

Just give them all .308 ARs with 11" barrels and they'll be fine.

 

[mkwerx]

Just give them all .308 ARs with 11" barrels and they'll be fine.

Hell if you miss, you still burn em with muzzle flash

 

[Boboclown]

Hell if you miss, you still burn em with muzzle flash

And if you don't they'll be blinded by the light.

 

[MrMillspecer]

I voted CZ and I do like Sig's. It seems to me the CZ has had less issues and is already used by armed forces in other countries. And with a 9mm a simple blowback design without a buffer tube makes sense. Imo

 

[Flopsweat]

Zenith also is hands down the best option for a suppressor. The paddle magazine release is still IMO better than push button releases. And......the platform is proven.

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And it's the sexiest looking gun of the bunch. I've put a lot of rounds through a suppressed Zenith and have no bad things to say about it. The 3-lug is the bomb. The action is butter. The sights are amazing. MP5.

 

[cigars]

Fuggedaboutit. Bazookas and grease guns, and that's all she wrote.

 

[Ura-Ki]

I gotta say a MK-18 or mod -11 would be the way to go, but the insistence on a sub gun makes me want a MP-5 10mm 9.5 barrel suppressed! Put the Mp5K handguard on it with intrageral light and you would have a sure winner across to board!

 

[Boboclown]

Give em RPGs, FALs and AKs. Hey, uneducated rebels can use em to clear a house, why can't the average desk worker?

 

[HB of CJ]

Retro. Like 70 years retro. USGI M2 Carbine. They made a few. Also made millions of the M1 Version. My M2 runs 100%. A kinda powerful dinky cartridge but a whole lot better than the 9mm. But .... why spend $100 bucks when our guv can spend $1000?

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[Caveman Jim]

IMHO, while I like the .300blk alto I feel it should not be fielded in an environment where it maybe inadvertently get stuffed into a 5.56 chambered rifle by an inattentive soldier. Yes for those of you that have never seen the results of firing a 300blk in a 5.56 it can be done, the results are not good.

This is the exact same reason I don't use the same magazines in my 556 versus my 300 Blackout. My 556 only utilizes 30-round usgi magazines my 300 Blackout only utilizes 20 round pmags with markings depicting 300 BLK.

 

[CamoDeafie]

Sometime in the last year, the US SOCOM sent out a RFI for a product that would give Special Operators a PDW in .300blk....
US SOCOM Seeks New .300 Blackout M4A1 Personal Defense Weapon Conversion Kit - The Firearm Blog

If I were in charge of the procurement program of the subgun and pdw programs, I'd ask why can't these two competitions be merged into one, thus saving costs overall by scale, and simplifying supply? I mean, if one group is going to get a super compact AR variant with the M4 lower; why not use the same gun for the "subgun" requirement?

 

[CamoDeafie]

SOCOM to Evaluate SIG Sauer's MCX Rattler - The Firearm Blog

This is updated; looks like the Sig MCX Rattler could meet both requirements except for caliber... if the Army doesnt decide on the Sig 9mm subgun entry

 

[Boboclown]

I'd ask why can't these two competitions be merged into one, thus saving costs overall by scale, and simplifying supply? I mean, if one group is going to get a super compact AR variant with the M4 lower; why not use the same gun for the "subgun" requirement?

Because that makes too much sense. We can't have that in our military.

 

[nehalemguy]

Well well........Heckler and Koch showed up after all. Plus Noveske and Angstadt Arms Corporation.

US Army Announces Intent To Award 3 Additional Sole Source Contracts For Sub Compact Weapons - Soldier Systems Daily

Does Noveske chamber a 9mm?

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