Pistol confiscated

[fstdraw]

A guy I know went to a local pawn shop to do a transfer of a .44 Ruger to a buyer. Apparently the serial number was a bit mangled and the buyer reneged and the pawn shop confiscated the pistol. Is this the proper procedure?

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[1775usmc]

Did they ever start the paperwork?

 

[fstdraw]

Not sure of that.

 

[1775usmc]

If the paperwork wasn't started I don't see any reason why he wouldn't have been able to leave with his own gun. But I may be wrong.

Wonder how "mangled" the SN was.

 

[Knobgoblin]

Is the pawn shop turning it over to a law enforcement agency?
Because that's who the prospective seller will end up dealing with , in an attempt to retrieve it.

 

[1775usmc]

Is the pawn shop turning it over to a law enforcement agency?
Because that's who the prospective seller will end up dealing with , in an attempt to retrieve it.

Yea no joke. I would have waited at the shop for LE to show up. If the pawn shop didn't call them I would have.

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

"Mangled" is such a vague word, could it (in the dealers mind) mean something like "removed, altered, or obliterated" as in:

§ 478.34 Removed, obliterated, or altered serial number.

No person shall knowingly transport, ship, or receive in interstate or foreign commerce any firearm which has had the importer's or manufacturer's serial number removed, obliterated, or altered, or possess or receive any firearm which has had the importer's or manufacturer's serial number removed, obliterated, or altered and has, at any time, been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce.

I would love to know what the SN looked like

 

[fstdraw]

I will post when I find out.

 

[64MercurysRule]

This is what I found .

Confiscation/Seizure: If a gun with a tampered or buggered serial number is brought to a shop, the dealer may seize it and contact law enforcement, as they cannot legally return a possible contraband item to a customer.

 

[fstdraw]

Thank you for the info.

 

[Hemlock]

My question has been, what about selling a firearm now, that was bought years ago before having to transfer via FFL.
What if it was unbeknown to me, stolen when I bought it?

 

[Knobgoblin]

My question has been, what about selling a firearm now, that was bought years ago before having to transfer via FFL.
What if it was unbeknown to me, stolen when I bought it?

After 3 years, stolen property is no longer considered " stolen ".

( if it was reported stolen)

 

[Unka-Boo]

My question has been, what about selling a firearm now, that was bought years ago before having to transfer via FFL.
What if it was unbeknown to me, stolen when I bought it?

I had that happen 20 some odd years ago...was trading in a S&W .44 that I had bought a couple years before for something new at a shop. They ran the SN and it came up stolen. Of course my initial reaction was "Oh $h17!, I'm foo-kd!" But ended up being a non issue for me other than being out the cost I paid for it. Sucked financially, but was glad someone would get their stolen gun back. F theives.

 

[Gunbuggy]

After 3 years, stolen property is no longer considered " stolen ".

( if it was reported stolen)

Didn't know that. Is that an Oregon thing? Federal?

 

[Knobgoblin]

Didn't know that. Is that an Oregon thing? Federal?

Just looked it up on the googles.

Wa state, I'd assume it's similar most places.

Guns are just property, if no other laws have been broken. Guns in the evidence locker for whatever reason might be a different issue.

 

[Gunbuggy]

Just looked it up on the googles.

Wa state, I'd assume it's similar most places.

Guns are just property, if no other laws have been broken. Guns in the evidence locker for whatever reason might be a different issue.

Makes sense. I was just wondering cause I've got a fair share of stuff from before the 2014 days that was hand shake deals (legally of course) that there'd be no way of knowing the history on the gun. I'd hate to go sell one at an ffl only for it to get confiscated because it was "stolen"

 

[Knobgoblin]

Makes sense. I was just wondering cause I've got a fair share of stuff from before the 2014 days that was hand shake deals (legally of course) that there'd be no way of knowing the history on the gun. I'd hate to go sell one at an ffl only for it to get confiscated because it was "stolen"

I'm not lawyer. But if it isn't something worth thousands, it's low value property.

A serial number matching a murder weapon would be something entirely different .

 

[Unka-Boo]

Makes sense. I was just wondering cause I've got a fair share of stuff from before the 2014 days that was hand shake deals (legally of course) that there'd be no way of knowing the history on the gun. I'd hate to go sell one at an ffl only for it to get confiscated because it was "stolen"

Heh...after my experience, I've kept all the "pre-941" purchases. I do miss handshake deals tho...really slowed down my "gun of the week" autism...

 

[Gunbuggy]

Heh...after my experience, I've kept all the "pre-941" purchases. I do miss handshake deals tho...really slowed down my "gun of the week" autism...

So you're saying that the law stopped you from doing handshake deals? Why?!

I'm kidding.

Miss those days too. It was so EZ.

 

[Unka-Boo]

So you're saying that the law stopped you from doing handshake deals? Why?!

I'm kidding.

Miss those days too. It was so EZ.

LOL...

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