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Oregon counties are preppers also but for what ? Us!

Discussion in 'Preparedness & Survival' started by raptedtite, Nov 27, 2014.

  1. raptedtite

    raptedtite L.O. Oregon Life Member Lifetime Supporter 2015 Volunteer

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  2. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    Really great to have the state pay for all the gear you need to protect your home and family. Wonder what they see in the future that makes them arm up so heavily?o_O
     
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  3. Legs

    Legs NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Feds are offering all kinds of military grade weapons and equipment, like M4's, night vision, and armored vehicles to local police and county Sheriffs. Good question... why?
     
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  4. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    We are not Furgason so,why is it they fear us so much? What is it they know that they need millions in military gear to combat? Oregon has no history of violence other than Portlands riots, why is Klamath falls arming up?o_O
     
  5. 308

    308 ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Platinum Supporter Silver Supporter

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    That's crazy stuff, but I will say "being a guy", if I could, I would love to get my hands on that cool stuff as well.
    Mostly the NV gear :)
     
  6. Sstrand

    Sstrand La Grande OR Well-Known Member

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    LISTEN UP! the equipment etc has been issued with strings attached!
    When the emperor declares martial law the states and counties will be expected to MOVE against the general population . . . Read some history and open your eyes.

    Do you think for a moment that the governors of California, Oregon, and Washington will hesitate for a moment to pass the orders down????

    You say The Sheriffs won't comply! They will be made offers they can't refuse!

    Sheldon
     
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  7. 308

    308 ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Platinum Supporter Silver Supporter

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    Sstrand....do you have proof to back up your comments? It is the innnerntz and all. :D
     
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  8. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    I think the Sherrifs department is more apt to use said equipment against a corrupt government than blast innocent civilians.o_O They have to live with us every day so I doubt they would murder us.
     
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  9. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    There have been a number of articles on the webs about why the fed puts their surplus military gear out there, but it comes down to a number of things:

    1) The feds more or less get free storage and upkeep for the gear. The civilian LEOs get it for almost free, but they have to keep it functional and maintained. This is the primary reason - otherwise the feds would have to surplus it; either put it in mothballs in a boneyard (which in practice is both expensive and the equipment sits there and rusts and isn't maintained), or sell it.

    2) The equipment is deployed and dispersed throughout the country, not kept in a few central depots.

    3) The feds get more people trained to operate and maintain the equipment.

    Some LEO orgs are trying to give the equipment back because they don't use it enough and it is too expensive for them to maintain. But the feds are putting up roadblocks to the return of the equipment because of the reasons above.

    Is there an underlying sinister motivation beyond what I mention above (which is not sinister, actually makes sense)? Maybe. I wouldn't be surprised if there was.

    OTOH, if I was in power, I would do the same thing, to a point - I wouldn't want surplus gear just sitting in a few places rusting away, I would want to disperse it and I would think it might be a good idea to have some non-federal agencies have access the equipment for their use - especially for emergencies.

    Not all military equipment is necessarily something that would be used to put down insurrection or herd people off to concentration camps - some of it would be useful for natural disasters.

    The downside and big worry is the militarization of LEO agencies - with or without surplus military gear.
     
  10. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    This is funny lets look at POLK county

    The have gotten:


    MINE RESISTANT VEHICLE 1
    TRACTOR,WHEELED,INDUSTRIAL 1
    TRUCK,UTILITY 2
    FORK LIFT 1

    GENERATOR SET,DIESEL ENGINE,TRAILER MOUNTED 1
    LIGHT UNIT,PORTABLE 1
    GENERATORS AND GENERATOR SETS, ELECTRICAL 1
    KIT,MODERN ARMY COM 1

    WATER PURIFICATION UNIT,FRAME MOUNTED 1
    Flood lights
    A shipping and storage container with misc equipment
    A few computer Systems
    ROBOT,EXPLOSIVE ORDNANCE DISPOSAL
    WELDING MACHINE,ARC
    Tents
    GENERATOR SET,DIESEL
    Various over priced exercise equipment
    TELESCOPE,NON-INVERTING INFRARED
    DETECTOR,GAS
    TOOL KIT,REPAIRMAN' multiple units
    BOARD
    FORCIBLE ENTRY TOOL
    INFORMATION CENTER
    TOOL KIT,REPAIRMAN'S,SMALL ARMS
    TELESCOPE,STRAIGHT
    ILLUMINATOR,INFRARED 1 unit
    TELEVISION 4
    PALLET JACK
    SIGHT,HOLOGRAPHIC 2
    BINOCULARS 2
    LOCKER, STORAGE 2

    RIFLE,7.62 MILLIMETER 3
    RIFLE,5.56 MILLIMETER 6
    RIFLEMAN SET 17
    SIGHT,REFLEX 74
    VEST,REL,BA,L,GREEN 12
    OPTICAL SIGHTING AND RANGING EQUIPMENT 3
    CPCVX CASE SOFT WEAPON 10
    HOLSTER,PISTOL 10
    HOLDER,MULTIPLE MAGAZINE 9
    BAYONET-KNIFE 20
    MAGAZINE,CARTRIDGE 47
    CLUB,SELF-PROTECTION 21
    POCKET,AMMUNITION MAGAZINE 20

    RACK,STORAGE,SMALL
    TRIPOD, CAMERA

    BAG,MEDICAL AID 13
    MEDICAL AND SURGICAL INSTRUMENTS 2
    SURGICAL DRESSING MATERIALS 3
    HOSPITAL AND SURGICAL CLOTHING 6
    FIRST AID KIT,INDIVIDUAL 25
    BANDAGE,GAUZE,IMPREGNATED 420
    TOURNIQUET,NONPNEUMATIC 50
    POUCH,HUMAN REMAINS 16
    MODULE,TRAUMA 18
    POUCH,INDIVIDUAL FIRST AID KIT 60
    DRESSING,COMPRESSION 100
    DRESSING,FIRST AID,FIELD 100
    DRESSING,PRESSURE P 7
    CASE,FIELD FIRST AI 20
    BANDAGE,GAUZE 100

    HAZARD-DETECTING INSTRUMENTS, APPARATUS 1
    CONTAINER,REUSABLE 1
    LAMP,INCANDESCENT 23
    BLANKET SET,BED

    FLAT PANEL MONITOR 38
    RADIO 2 WAY VOICE 30
    RECEIVER-TRANSMITTER,RADIO 20
    RADIO GPS HANDHELD 2 WAY 37
    PRINTER

    CASE,PHOTOGRAPHIC E 16
    MES COMBAT LIFESAVER VERSION 2005 15

    COVERALLS,COMBAT VEHICLE CREWMEN'S 20
    COVERALLS,FUEL HANDLER 20
    COVERALLS,COMBAT VE 4
    OVERALLS,COLD WEATH 80
    TYCHEM F COVERALL 20
    GLOVES,FLYERS' 8
    BELT,INDIVIDUAL EQU 20
    HOOD,COLD WEATHER 11

    WRENCH,TORQUE
    REFRIGERATOR
    SET,FIGHTING LOAD C 6
    FACESHIELD,INDUSTRIal 30
    GOGGLES,INDUSTRIAL 63
    SAFETY GLASSES,REVI 126
    SPECTACLE,COMBO PACK,UVEX GENESIS 15
    SPECTACLES SET,BALLISTIC AND LASER PROTECTIVE 30
    MEAL,INDIVIDUAL 200
    ASSAULT PACK 17
    FIELD PACK 11
    RUCKSACK LARGE FIELD 15
    KIT BAG,FLYER'S 20
    BAG,FLYER'S HELMET 50
    BAG,CLOTHING 6
    BAG,BARRACKS 16

    SPACE AND WATER HEATING EQUIPMENT 3
    PAD KIT,HELMET 50
    SHIRT,COLD WEATHER 205
    HYDRATION SYSTEM 27
    LUGGAGE 4
    MAT,SLEEPING,SELF-I
    INTRENCHING TOOL,HA 20
    RESPIRATOR,AIR FILTERING 10
    OFFICE SUPPLIES, PRINTING 9
    HEADLAMP 4
    PAD,KNEE 6
    ELBOW,PAD 6
    CANTEEN AND CARRIER 28
    TAPE,INSULATION,ELE 20
    LAMINATOR 1
    SHOP VACUUM 1


    Very little on that list is all that scary sure they got 9 rifles and some weapons support stuff.

    Granted other counties may have gotten scarier stuff I just picked one county.
     
  11. Legs

    Legs NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    We can consider Polk County Sheriff Department militarized. Where can one find these county by county shopping lists, and are these actual surplus items or new, contract run "we don't need them anymore" type items?
     
  12. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I don't know that they would be considered militarized from that list, but I can't think of why Polk County would need, or want, a mine resistant vehicle. I suppose, maybe, they might want it for busting meth labs in the boonies, but I would be interested to learn if they have ever actually used it in a situation where its use would be warranted. It's not like Polk county has a lot of serious crime where I would think they would need such a vehicle.
     
  13. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    Most of the gear they will wear out just training with ito_O
     
  14. Legs

    Legs NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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  15. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Getting back to Polk county I can see where the Hwy dept can use a whole bunch of that gear. Not to mention theres a lot of lines of Medical stuff I'm sure the Fire Dept and any first aide kit can do with some restocking
    I am not afraid of 144 pairs of coveralls or 264 pair of goggles
     
  16. pnwSooner

    pnwSooner near but not in Portland Member

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    Haha...my county has only bought a utility truck and 3 doors....four yrs ago.
     
  17. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    I had a web addy that listed the gear by county One county south of Portland had 11 deputies and 134 M-16s
     
  18. Provincial

    Provincial Near Salem, OR Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps they expect to outfit a posse? ;)
     
  19. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    It's quite obvious that the LEO's know that the Japanese would not invade us due to us having a rifle behind every blade of grass but the Feds do like to mow grass so I believe they are afraid of the subjects (us peasants) revolting when we finally have absolutely had ENOUGH!!!!