OR Washington Co CHL renewal frustration

Cougfan2 · Nov 18, 2011

Just got my notice in the mail the other day that my OR, Wash. Co. CHL is up for renewal in Late Dec. I am currently recovering from some reconstructive surgery on my left foot so I really have no way to get to the courthouse unless my wife packs me up and hauls me there. The renewal clearly states that only active duty military can renew by mail, but I called to see if they make any exceptions for the handicapped. When I asked them if there were any exceptions they said no. I could let my license lapse and renew it when I was up and around with no penalty, but it would be illegal for me to carry concealed until I renewed.

This kind of ticked me off, but the gal at the CHL office was just reciting the law as written so I figured it wouldn't do any good to chew on her. It's just frustrating that they apparently don't give a **** if you are handicapped. Oh well. Rant over on that piece.

I did find out that there has been a change since last year (at least last year is what she said) where not only do you have to bring your driver' license and previous CHL in when you renew, but you also have to bring proof of citizenship such as a US Passport, US Birth Certificate, or Naturalization papers. When did they slip that one through? It's no problem for me, but it looks like they just put up another unneeded road block for CHL holders to renew.

BTW, it you do chose to use a passport for proof of citizenship, it does not have to be current, you can use and expired passport.

Anyways, FYI.

G1GRANDEUR · Nov 18, 2011

Maybe bring doctors note?

Good luck, sound like pain to deal with and speed recovery. :s0155:

hermannr · Nov 18, 2011

Look in your Oregon law. Does OR only issue to US citizens? What do your green card aliens do for a permit?

m469699 · Nov 18, 2011

I just renewed last month with an expired US passport. I'm sure they accepted it and instructions didn't specify it had to be "current".

Grunwald · Nov 18, 2011

hermannr said:
Look in your Oregon law. Does OR only issue to US citizens? What do your green card aliens do for a permit?

Aliens don't worry about a CHL and carry their phasers open carry style. If stopped by police the transporter can provided a quick means of escape.
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biggie24420 · Nov 19, 2011

I need to do a change of address on my CHL and when I called them last week, they said I had to make an appointment. I called a few days ago and they told me I can just come in lol..... I also found out I can conceal carry into the building on my way to the CHL office and I was surprised to hear that.

Hawaiian · Nov 19, 2011

The proof of citizenship also applies when you renew your drivers license. You must take in birth certificate or passport, SS card and utility bill as proof of residence. And, remove your glasses for the picture. The new pics are computerized facial recognition. Yep they will now have this in addition to your fingerprints. I was told that this is a one time thing and once you renew will all of this, it will not be required next time. But by then they will probably require a DNA sample.

hermannr · Nov 19, 2011

Hawaiian said:
The proof of citizenship also applies when you renew your drivers license. You must take in birth certificate or passport, SS card and utility bill as proof of residence. And, remove your glasses for the picture. The new pics are computerized facial recognition. Yep they will now have this in addition to your fingerprints. I was told that this is a one time thing and once you renew will all of this, it will not be required next time. But by then they will probably require a DNA sample.

Interesting: I wonder what they are going to do with their green card aliens? I was a green card for many years before I became a citizen...never heard of a requirement that you be a citizen to drive a car (or own a gun) and yes, this includes Oregon. I got my very first driver's license in Oregon as a green card (but was never asked for it). I didn't get my citizenship until I returned from my 18 month all expense paid tour of SE Asia in 1969.

drew · Nov 19, 2011

hermannr said:
Interesting: I wonder what they are going to do with their green card aliens? I was a green card for many years before I became a citizen...never heard of a requirement that you be a citizen to drive a car (or own a gun) and yes, this includes Oregon. I got my very first driver's license in Oregon as a green card (but was never asked for it). I didn't get my citizenship until I returned from my 18 month all expense paid tour of SE Asia in 1969.

You have to prove you're in the country legally for OR to issue/renew a driver's license. There's other documents that work if you have a green card or work visa. A green card holder can drive a car and own guns.

Mac_Fan · Nov 21, 2011

It's not just the CHL, you need proof of citizenship to get any form of ID now.

jonathon · Nov 22, 2011

Mac_Fan said:
It's not just the CHL, you need proof of citizenship to get any form of ID now.

Only in Oregon. Washington will still give ID out to anyone who claims to live here. Now we might as well say the same thing about CPL's.. there is no way to verify residency or legal status.

Be grateful that within the next decade there will be no more illegals possessing Oregon Drivers Licenses. Just wish we would do that here.. there are dudes with 4 or 5 DL's. DOL is just now starting to crack down on that with facial recognition...

Cougfan2 · Nov 22, 2011

jonathon said:
Only in Oregon. Washington will still give ID out to anyone who claims to live here. Now we might as well say the same thing about CPL's.. there is no way to verify residency or legal status.

Be grateful that within the next decade there will be no more illegals possessing Oregon Drivers Licenses. Just wish we would do that here.. there are dudes with 4 or 5 DL's. DOL is just now starting to crack down on that with facial recognition...

I didn't mean it to sound like I have a problem with providing proof of US citizenship to get a CHL, to the contrary, I am perfectly OK with it. My biggest problem is that I am temporarily handicapped and they offer no option to renew via mail unless you are active duty military. It's just a hassle as my wife will have to take off work, as will I, to cart me down there. That being said, I will jump thru the hoops and work it out.