Newbie AR buyer

[tenchibmw]

Looking to get an AR rifle and pistol.


So many makers of ARs out there, how do you know which one is better? I know Sig, Colt (no longer making ARs right?), Ruger, S&W and DDM by rep but what about others like Springfield Armory Palmetto, ? What makes one worth $2500 versus $700?

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[223to45]

PSA can be hit or miss in quality.

So far the Saints are working out good.

Materials used and quality workmanship, and QC checks are generally what set the high dollar apart.

 

[Arne K]

In my opinion, Rock River Arms makes the best AR's for the money. Many of them come with an accuracy guarantee. You can spend a lot more money on an AR but the added value is pretty hard to see.

 

[tenchibmw]

PSA can be hit or miss in quality.

So far the Saints are working out good.

Materials used and quality workmanship, and QC checks are generally what set the high dollar apart.

I haven't seen much of the "this AR brand sucks" reviews anywhere. Some dude on the Socialist Rifle Association (wow...came up in Google search) had a list of AR manufacturers that ranked from Elite to poverty and the ones I mentioned were pretty much the poverty level. Not sure if that is accurate

 

[ZA_Survivalist]

Looking to get an AR rifle and pistol.


So many makers of ARs out there, how do you know which one is better? I know Sig, Colt (no longer making ARs right?), Ruger, S&W and DDM by rep but what about others like Springfield Armory Palmetto, ? What makes one worth $2500 versus $700?

You really dont have to spend a TON on an AR. These days most of the manf is pretty darn decent.
$700 will easily fetch you a solid rifle. $2500 is if you got money to burn, want a show piece OR you compete and need special features.

 

[Member 34319]

Sadly these were down to $400 a few months ago! Welcome to supply and demand.

Ruger AR-556 5.56mm Optics-Ready Semi-Automatic Rifle

Ruger: AR-556 5.56mm Optics-Ready Semi-Automatic Rifle for sale at Sportsman's Outdoor Superstore.

www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com

 

[tenchibmw]

Sadly these were down to $400 a few months ago! Welcome to supply and demand.

Ruger AR-556 5.56mm Optics-Ready Semi-Automatic Rifle

Ruger: AR-556 5.56mm Optics-Ready Semi-Automatic Rifle for sale at Sportsman's Outdoor Superstore.

www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com

Hows the quality

 

[Member 34319]

Hows the quality

Everything I have seen and heard is good. Only complaint is ruger uses a unprotected firing pin semi auto style carrier. A new bolt carrier group or carrier can fix that in a jiffy.

 

[Ura-Ki]

Depending on what you want, you can get into a solid reliable AR for not a lot of money!
S&W MP-15
Ruger 5.56
both are good basic rifles that work and are accurate!
Of the two, the Ruger has some nice additional features, weather or not you want them or not is up to you, but they are nice to have for some folks.
The MP series are really nice for a basic rifle that you can add to or modify as desired with out getting into the big buck builds.

With AR's, the trick is setting your goals up front, and locking it in before the purchase, otherwise you end up spending a lot more on stuff you may not really need or appreciate. The vast majority of rifles out there get stuff added to them to make them sell, with no real world benefits to the new/average shooter. kind of like putting chrome on a Mack truck!

 

[DB is Here]

kind of like putting chrome on a Mack truck!

 

[v0lcom13sn0w]

ohhh boy....

in my opinion, if you dont shoot a lot, any of the major brands entry level ARs will be fine.

now, realistically we all know that once you buy one you'll wanna shoot it...a lot. now, in doing that you'll wanna make changes. then, you'll make changes and you'll be happy with those changes...and then you wont be...then you'll make more changes... and in doing that will make you happy. next thing you know you have a giant pile of spare parts and will be sad that they're just sitting there not being used....but you know what makes you happy...building guns makes you happy...so you think...why dont i just build one out of my spare parts as like a truck gun or whatever...so you buy a lower... and so it begins...over the next few months youre working over time and eating ramen to fuel your new addiction..giving up nicotine and alcohol to justify spending the money on gun stuff...one truck AR now turns into another AR but this time in a "fad" caliber that will fade away over time...but wait...it doesnt stop there....3 ARs now isnt enough...you gotta build a varmint rifle...OH!!! and then a pistol...for you know...SHTF/bugout....so then you get to thinking. holy crap...now i have 5 ARs that have all had BGCs on them and if SHTF then the govts gonna know i have them...DING DING DING LIGHT BULB GOES OFF...!!! i'll just buy a jig and replace all my lowers with 80% lowers...so you do. now you have 5 ghost ARs and 5 serialized lowers for when "they" come to confiscate them, you'll be slick and just give them the "ones they know about" next thing you know you have 10 and most of them never get shot and just get taken out of the safe to show your buddies.


welcome to the sickness. there is no cure.

 

[DB is Here]

Want Quality:
Daniel Defense or Noveske are solid.

Want Mispec....the choices are endless And they work.

 

[Ura-Ki]

ohhh boy....

in my opinion, if you dont shoot a lot, any of the major brands entry level ARs will be fine.

now, realistically we all know that once you buy one you'll wanna shoot it...a lot. now, in doing that you'll wanna make changes. then, you'll make changes and you'll be happy with those changes...and then you wont be...then you'll make more changes... and in doing that will make you happy. next thing you know you have a giant pile of spare parts and will be sad that they're just sitting there not being used....but you know what makes you happy...building guns makes you happy...so you think...why dont i just build one out of my spare parts as like a truck gun or whatever...so you buy a lower... and so it begins...over the next few months youre working over time and eating ramen to fuel your new addiction..giving up nicotine and alcohol to justify spending the money on gun stuff...one truck AR now turns into another AR but this time in a "fad" caliber that will fade away over time...but wait...it doesnt stop there....3 ARs now isnt enough...you gotta build a varmint rifle...OH!!! and then a pistol...for you know...SHTF/bugout....so then you get to thinking. holy crap...now i have 5 ARs that have all had BGCs on them and if SHTF then the govts gonna know i have them...DING DING DING LIGHT BULB GOES OFF...!!! i'll just buy a jig and replace all my lowers with 80% lowers...so you do. now you have 5 ghost ARs and 5 serialized lowers for when "they" come to confiscate them, you'll be slick and just give them the "ones they know about" next thing you know you have 10 and most of them never get shot and just get taken out of the safe to show your buddies.


welcome to the sickness. there is no cure.

^^^^^^ this 1000 times^^^^^
There is no cure ether, just so you know!

 

[ron]

Rock River factory uppers at a discount.

AR-15 Factory Built OEM Uppers | PK Firearms

www.pkfirearms.com

PK built uppers

AR-15 Custom Uppers (PKF Built) | PK Firearms

www.pkfirearms.com

 

[tenchibmw]

Thanks guys. I am just looking for a reliable gun that shoots true. I don't want to be stuck with a gun that fails or even worse blows up in my face or even gets laughed at if I go to the range from AR snobs

 

[11Charlie]

laughed at if I go to the range from AR snobs

If they are snobs and look down on you then my guess is they can't shoot worth a sh!t.

 

[WoodsPlinker]

First you buy something, doesn't matter from who, then you break your pin gauges out like instructor Chad and start checking how gas efficient it is.

Joking, anything you get will probably be fine.

Kotaboy32 has been doing comparisons of parts lately though... His bolt carrier group comparison did a great job of showing you the difference between quality and cheap if you want to know why people pay more. Well worth watching.

 

[tenchibmw]

First you buy something, doesn't matter from who, then you break your pin gauges out like instructor Chad and start checking how gas efficient it is.

Joking, anything you get will probably be fine.

Kotaboy32 has been doing comparisons of parts lately though... His bolt carrier group comparison did a great job of showing you the difference between quality and cheap if you want to know why people pay more. Well worth watching.

Thanks!

 

[titsonritz]

What makes one worth $2500 versus $700?

Knights Armament.