Need help with Washington transfer laws.

[donmorgan66]

Hey guys I'm in need of some quick help and I knew somebody here would probably know. My step dad wants to gift me 2 semi auto pistols, one revolver and 1 ar 15. We both live in Washington. One gun shop said write a gift bill of sale for pistols. Said can't gift the ar 15 but can will it to me when he dies. He's got
Espogial cancer and probably won't make it to the end of the year. How do I get the pistols in my name with nothing but a bill of gift?

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[User 1234]

Based on what you wrote above, an FFL in your state of residence (Oregon) would need to process the transfer for it to be legal. An Oregon FFL is going to need a current license with your current address.

As a general practice, I believe most people never take any accessories to the FFL, such as magazines, cases, fancy sights, etc.

 

[Member 86767]

In WA State to do a handgun transfer you must have a Washington Drivers License with a current address in Washington. This is a federal law and is probably the same in other states. You fill out the 4473 like with a purchase, the 4473 is a federal form, falsifying a federal form is, well, not good. That being said the handguns can be transferred withOUT the magazines. We don't talk about magazines at the shop where I work, we don't want to see them for the transfer.

With that same Drivers license stipulation, an AR15 can be transferred one time between family members (not sure of the relationship, but any transferring FFL can tell you. The POTENTIAL problem I see is that you have a different last name than the person who owns the rifle now. Not sure how this part of the paperwork goes, but we have transferred at least one AR Pistol to the daughter of the owner.

 

[drstrangelove]

Last time I checked, FFL transfer is exempted between family members. Tie a bow around it and carry on.

 

[Camelfilter]

Last time I checked, FFL transfer is exempted between family members. Tie a bow around it and carry on.

Crossing state lines. FFL transfer is required.

State law MAY also dictate FFL transfer for relatives within Washington, dunno tho.

OP, whatever you decide to do is up to you. Do not fudge anything on a 4473...

 

[1775usmc]

I know how I would handle the situation. Not sure it would be considered legal though.

 

[uberguy]

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[bcp]

From:

RCW 9.41.113:

app.leg.wa.gov

(1) All firearm sales or transfers, in whole or part in this state including without limitation a sale or transfer where either the purchaser or seller or transferee or transferor is in Washington, shall be subject to background checks unless specifically exempted by state or federal law. The background check requirement applies to all sales or transfers including, but not limited to, sales and transfers through a licensed dealer, at gun shows, online, and between unlicensed persons.
....
(4) This section does not apply to:
(a) A transfer between immediate family members, which for this subsection shall be limited to spouses, domestic partners, parents, parents-in-law, children, siblings, siblings-in-law, grandparents, grandchildren, nieces, nephews, first cousins, aunts, and uncles, that is a bona fide gift or loan;


Bruce

 

[uberguy]

There is some degree of ambiguity here.

"We live in the state of Washington. Can he gift me the firearms if we do paperwork at a pawn shop or an FFL ...

Again we both have Washington driver's license. I am residing in Oregon however I decided to keep my Washington driver's license because of my endorsements."

In state vs. across state lines have different legal requirements.
OR DMV As a new Oregon resident, within 30 days you must:

• Get an Oregon Driver License (if you want to drive); and
• Title and register your vehicle.

 

[Nwcid]

Do you mean the guns that he passed on to you long ago and have been in your possession for many years.......??????

 

[quneur]

If you have written proof he's your father then transfers between family members is allowed within WA; no FFL needed. If living outside the state, then the other state law applies. It all depends upon your residency.

 

[Camelfilter]

If you have written proof he's your father then transfers between family members is allowed within WA; no FFL needed. If living outside the state, then the other state law applies. It all depends upon your residency.

Federally depends on residency as well. FFL transfer required crossing state lines residency wise. Regardless of state laws.

Residence in same state, state laws apply…

 

[gmerkt]

OP edited out the part about living in Oregon with a Wash. DL.

 

[Camelfilter]

OP edited out the part about living in Oregon with a Wash. DL.

Oh, "they" already know..."They" saved his first draft.

 

[tac556]

OP edited out the part about living in Oregon with a Wash. DL.

Probably has an OR plate on his car though…

You don't get to pick and choose which state's DL you have, so get one for the state you are living in. You cannot get a background check done in either state if your DL address is not current (even when moving within one state).

I was wondering why this topic even existed…

 

[Brownsalamander]

Hey guys I'm in need of some quick help and I knew somebody here would probably know. My step dad wants to gift me 2 semi auto pistols, one revolver and 1 ar 15. We both live in Washington. One gun shop said write a gift bill of sale for pistols. Said can't gift the ar 15 but can will it to me when he dies. He's got
Espogial cancer and probably won't make it to the end of the year. How do I get the pistols in my name with nothing but a bill of gift?

Why worry about transferring them at all. He can just give them to you. Don't tell anyone, and no one will be the wiser. You won't get caught as long as you don't draw attention to yourself about it.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Going to close this thread.

Asking for legal advice via the internet is never a good idea.

Also...
While I agree that Washington's firearm laws are stupid , to say the least....and that all of them are designed only keep citizens from exercising their 2nd Amendment Right...
To post suggestions / comments and the like that urges someone to break the law, on a public forum ...
Ain't a good idea either.
Andy