Muzzleloaders you wish they made?

[CountryGent]

In the spirit of many other "I wish they made ..." threads, what muzzleloaders do you wish were made, either from a big company or small shop? Historic repo, modern, or just a unique feature set you'd like?

Thanks for sharing.

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[Lilhigbee]

A replica Walch Navy 12-shot revolver!! or at least the ten-shot .32.

 

[DSbur]

1817 Common Rifle

 

[Andy54Hawken]

A BIG YES to the 1817 Common Rifle....thank you @DSbur

I'd also like to see a historically accurate copy of the J. Henry English Trade Rifle.

Something else I'd like to see with replicas....
Proper rifling depth...often the twist rate may be historically correct..but the rifling is like a modern cartridge rifle...
Too shallow.
This happens with both off the shelf guns...as well as some custom makers.

Also proper historically sights...many if not most of the sights offered on replicas....
Are too damn high to be historically correct...really throws the look off , for me at least.

A historically accurate copy of a Northwest Trade Gun....
The one offered by Dixie....is just wrong on so many levels.
Many of the Indian made ones are nice...but that damn teak wood stock....ain't right for the gun.

Andy

 

[CountryGent]

Totally off the top of my head:

• A functional, reasonably faithful to the originals, pepperbox of mid-19th century vintage. The few repos I've encountered over the years have been junk, to put it charitably, or were wildly historically inaccurate (e.g., the Pietta Navy Yank Pepperbox).
• A John Browning style Harmonica Gun.
• A Hawken-esque rifle, but "shrunk down". Not for me, but for smaller stature people in my family. (Example: my wife is a diminutive woman and my children are still in grammar school / middle school age zone, so such an arm would allow them to experience muzzleloaders in a safe and effective way.)
• A faithful reproduction of the Escopeta rifle like @Andy54Hawken has in collection.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

@CountryGent
Thank you...
Ifin' we ever get a chance to get together...I'll bring it along...might even get a chance to shoot it....
Andy

Spanish made escopeta with a miquelet percussion lock

• Andy54Hawken
• Feb 16, 2025

Escopeta with saddle bar

• Andy54Hawken
• Feb 16, 2025

Escopeta with miquelet percussion lock

• Andy54Hawken
• Feb 16, 2025

 

[SgtYeti]

Thompson Center please put sidekicks back in production especially the Grey Hawk in .54.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Thompson Center please put sidekicks back in production especially the Grey Hawk in .54.

That Grey Hawk is an excellent hunting rifle for damn sure.

Thompson Center made some fine side lock rifles....sure wish they were back in production as well.

Andy

 

[CountryGent]

Speaking of bringing things back, it would be nice if Ruger started making the Old Army again.

 

[Bolt_308]

I would love to see them do some new production ones of these styles. I am new to this world, but know there is many different names and styles, going by: moukahla, Moorish Shnaphaunce Gun, Kabyle, jezails, Torador, Ottoman guns, Upper Sinhd Jezail, Moroccan Afedali Snaphaunce musket etc.

Just love the unique style and designs. Friend has a original, think it is a Jezail, and man is it cool!

@Andy54Hawken maybe you know of something out there that exists? Sorry if I dont have all the proper lingo down! ;-)

 

[Andy54Hawken]

@Bolt_308

As far as I know.....no one company , makes a copy of any of those listed.

That said....
I have no doubt that many are made today in places like the Khyber Pass , etc... for the souvenir trade.
Something to consider here too...is the "shootability" of the firearm , might be questionable.....

Andy

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Speaking of bringing things back, it would be nice if Ruger started making the Old Army again.

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Yep....that seemed like a dumb idea to me , at least , to discontinue this fine revovler.

A Ruger percussion or flintlock rifle along the lines of the old Thompson Center rifles...would be nice to see.
Andy

 

[Will_White]

A Lemat Carbine reproduction.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Wish someone would make a nice Leman Trade Rifle Copy...
Would save me some wear and tear on my original one.....

Henry Leman Trade Rifle circa 1840's -1870's

• Andy54Hawken
• Dec 12, 2021

Leman Rifles were very popular in the Western Fur Trade during the late 1830's - 1870s.
Lots of them were bought , sold and traded....they were used by both Indians and traders / trappers / hunters / etc....
Andy

 

[Andy54Hawken]

I know this comment will end up in That Thread....

While I don't mind and can even enjoy a big butt.....

I really wish the Uberti / Pietta / etc.. copies of Colt percussion revolvers would get the proper dimensions of the grips.
Damn near all of the above copies are too damn thick and clunky when compared to an original / antique / or even 2nd generation Colt.

And while you can re-shape the grips....when doing so , quite often you will then need to re-shape the grip frame...
And at times...the actual frame of the revolver....all of which can easily turn into a PITA.....
And more trouble / frustration than it is worth.....
Not to forget to mention...the idea of doing this to a brand new gun....

Andy