Oregon Measure 114 is just the beginning

[Vinnie]

Lift Oregon is not only bargaining with the legislature as to how 114 will be implemented, they are preparing to get the legislature to write and pass more laws this upcoming session.
Apparently it is common for initiative petition authors to be involved in the implementation. However, by my way of thinking, they composed text that the voters fell for (under a sweet and misleading ballot title) and their chance at influence should stop at that, They should have earned no title to Lobbyism or promotion tantamount to election as Legislators by that effort. They wrote it - period. Adios.
The measure imposes a severe cost in money to the State and its subdivisions yet Lift Oregon pays none of it because of their tax free status. So, why even speak with them regarding 114 looking forward? Deal with their damage within the established circles of government and fix what can be. fixed by the effort solely of the ELECTED representatives (including Sheriffs).
Here is what Lift Oregon has in mind:

Status of IP18 — Lift Every Voice Oregon

www.lifteveryvoiceoregon.com

Have a nice day

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[Vinnie]

If you are holding out for judicial relief, just take a look at what a mess California remains after many, many years of insane and irrational gun tyranny.

 

[sed]

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[jackrv]

I'm inclined to believe, just my opinion, that they DID NOT compose the language in M114. The organizations that bankrolled it probably did.

i.e. Everytown, Giffords, Bloomberg.

 

[PiratePast40]

It's not going to end until and unless we can keep pounding them back. If we can break 114 and show them that it's a waste of money to continue, we have a chance of slowing them down. As long as there are people engaged in deceit and outright lies, it's not going to change. They have no desire whatsoever to save the lives of children and are instead dancing in their blood to pursue their radical, selfish, and immature fight against objects instead of seeking real change. There should be no doubt in anyone's mind that evil does indeed exist and it has taken the form of false prophets.

 

[Vinnie]

I'm inclined to believe, just my opinion, that they DID NOT compose the language in M114. The organizations that bankrolled it probably did.

i.e. Everytown, Giffords, Bloomberg.

Same difference. Lift Every Voice Oregon had TEXT pass a vote. Their involvement should be over and they should disappear back into the public. Interpreting the text is a job for others.

 

[Vinnie]

Imagine, after they get their wish, an Oregon with present day morality and ethics being hit by another Columbus Day-type storm, the Big Quake, serious flooding, widespread power outages. And inadequate or no means to protect your home, your block, and your business against the certain-to-arrive mobs and no way to legally obtain arms without a month or so forewarning.. Some of our mobs need no emergency at all to move them into action with no forewarning.
You know full well that in emergency the first to get government help are the government itself, then those in government custody, then those already in hospitals, and then infrastructure workers, and somewhere way down the list is the isolated, newly disarmed peon who will probably have to travel to a supply post to get his "help".
Devil take the hindmost will be the motto of the day.

 

[Nosferatu]

If you are holding out for judicial relief, just take a look at what a mess California remains after many, many years of insane and irrational gun tyranny.

Bruen is likely to put a dent in this, finally.

 

[ZigZagZeke]

Lift Oregon is not only bargaining with the legislature as to how 114 will be implemented, they are preparing to get the legislature to write and pass more laws this upcoming session.
Apparently it is common for initiative petition authors to be involved in the implementation. However, by my way of thinking, they composed text that the voters fell for (under a sweet and misleading ballot title) and their chance at influence should stop at that, They should have earned no title to Lobbyism or promotion tantamount to election as Legislators by that effort. They wrote it - period. Adios.
The measure imposes a severe cost in money to the State and its subdivisions yet Lift Oregon pays none of it because of their tax free status. So, why even speak with them regarding 114 looking forward? Deal with their damage within the established circles of government and fix what can be. fixed by the effort solely of the ELECTED representatives (including Sheriffs).
Here is what Lift Oregon has in mind:

Status of IP18 — Lift Every Voice Oregon

www.lifteveryvoiceoregon.com

Have a nice day

Oregon’s Measure 114 sees first challenge: Oregon Firearms Federation files lawsuit to try to stop strict new gun limits

The Oregon Firearms Federation late Friday filed a federal suit against Gov. Kate Brown and the state’s attorney general, urging a judge to bar the recent voter-approved gun control Measure 114 from taking effect next month.

www.oregonlive.com

 

[Jay Walk]

Incorrect

Serial numbers were just the beginning.

 

[Cavedweller]

Oregon’s Measure 114 sees first challenge: Oregon Firearms Federation files lawsuit to try to stop strict new gun limits

The Oregon Firearms Federation late Friday filed a federal suit against Gov. Kate Brown and the state’s attorney general, urging a judge to bar the recent voter-approved gun control Measure 114 from taking effect next month.

www.oregonlive.com

I hope the haven't botched it. They seem to be playing right into the opposition's hands with this argument:

"To the contrary, the only thing the ban contained in 114 ensures is that a criminal unlawfully carrying a firearm with a magazine over 10 rounds will have a potentially devastating advantage over his law-abiding victim."

So "standard capacity magazines" are more dangerous? Not the way I'd approach the issue, but what do I know?

 

[Howard1955]

It might take a while, but the end of this road we're on is known.

 

[PiratePast40]

I hope the haven't botched it. They seem to be playing right into the opposition's hands with this argument:

"To the contrary, the only thing the ban contained in 114 ensures is that a criminal unlawfully carrying a firearm with a magazine over 10 rounds will have a potentially devastating advantage over his law-abiding victim."

So "standard capacity magazines" are more dangerous? Not the way I'd approach the issue, but what do I know?

You might be reading too much into that. The way I read it, the criminal will have whatever magazine he wants while the law abiding citizen will be limited to 10 rounds. It's not that a magazine is more dangerous, it's that while being assaulted a criminal, being outgunned is more dangerous.

 

[HDR]

The main substance was to reference Bruen to establish case law. The rest is all filler.

 

[GDragich]

Next OR and WA will follow DC's example in overhauling the criminal code:

The D.C. Council unanimously approved changes to the city's criminal code, which would reduce maximum sentences for burglaries, carjackings, and robberies. It would also reduce penalties for illegal gun possession, including for carrying a pistol without a license and for being a felon in possession of a firearm.

You know, because it's about saving lives and social justice

 

[DizzyJ]

As mentioned:

Status of IP18 — Lift Every Voice Oregon

www.lifteveryvoiceoregon.com

They're going after semiautomatic "assault" rifles next. And if it doesn't pass next year, they're pushing for it again the following year. They want more and won't stop. They openly admit it.

 

[arakboss]

It's not going to end until and unless we can keep pounding them back. If we can break 114 and show them that it's a waste of money to continue, we have a chance of slowing them down. As long as there are people engaged in deceit and outright lies, it's not going to change. They have no desire whatsoever to save the lives of children and are instead dancing in their blood to pursue their radical, selfish, and immature fight against objects instead of seeking real change. There should be no doubt in anyone's mind that evil does indeed exist and it has taken the form of false prophets.

Measure 114 was the chum. Now the gun grabbing sharks are going to pour money into Oregon full tilt.

 

[fmvolume86]

As mentioned:

Status of IP18 — Lift Every Voice Oregon

www.lifteveryvoiceoregon.com

They're going after semiautomatic "assault" rifles next. And if it doesn't pass next year, they're pushing for it again the following year. They want more and won't stop. They openly admit it.

its easy when they have someone bankroling them paying them to fufuill their evil agenda......... where is the big money behind our cause to preserve America? Seriously where is it??? no one cares !! just us commoners ... no one else cares. Only thing we can really do is donate to the funds pushing back and we need to start doing more community engagement regarding guns. Stop hiding in your basement or thinking its a taboo subject. That's what we do when no talking to other gun people we treated as a taboo ... why? and the only very vocal ones in public are the crazy i'm goign to wear camo while going to the grocery store types.
It's time we involve communities, bring back kids competitive shooting and make it cool, make it normal.

 

[fredball]

 

[dancinghippos]

its easy when they have someone bankroling them paying them to fufuill their evil agenda......... where is the big money behind our cause to preserve America? Seriously where is it??? no one cares !! just us commoners ... no one else cares. Only thing we can really do is donate to the funds pushing back and we need to start doing more community engagement regarding guns. Stop hiding in your basement or thinking its a taboo subject. That's what we do when no talking to other gun people we treated as a taboo ... why? and the only very vocal ones in public are the crazy i'm goign to wear camo while going to the grocery store types.
It's time we involve communities, bring back kids competitive shooting and make it cool, make it normal.

Agree. Everyone belongs to some religion or gene pool or social status that at some point in the last 100 years was the target of disorganized or organized persecution. We used to learn this in school.