Marlin Trapper 1984 10mm

[aasbra]

I stumbled upon this today when considering the Trapper in 30-30. Interesting, but I already have similar in 38/357 and carbine levers in 44 mag and 45 Colt. Will be curious how this one sells. May consider one if the price was right.

https://www.marlinfirearms.com/s/model_70453/

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[User 1234]

That looks really nice!

The description does not expressly say it is drilled and tapped for a scope base. Does anyone know if it is?

 

[aasbra]

I suspect that it is. The Skinner sight that they come with fastens with screws on the top of the receiver. Although I don't have any current production 1984 rifles (since Ruger took over), all of mine (90s vintage to Remlin) are D&T for scope base. Ruger seems to pay attention to the market, and with many shooters wanting to put optics on firearms in recent years, it would be short sighted for it not to be.

Most of my levers wear a receiver sight. I do have a burris fastfire on a couple, though. And occasionally mount a scope on them for load development.

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

dupe

Marlin now producing 10mm lever action?? :-o

https://www.marlinfirearms.com/s/leverAction-TrapperSeries/ https://www.marlinfirearms.com/s/model_70453/...

www.northwestfirearms.com

 

[aasbra]

I saw BiMart had these as a "Web Only" item at a price that I could stomach so I snagged one. First outing at the range today with it and it ran like a champ. About 90 rounds of 180 grain handloads that I use in my two other 10mm handguns and it cycled and functioned great, and rang the steel every shot. Was only about 35 or 40 yards where I was shooting today; I need to stretch it's legs at longer distances to give it a more thorough evaluation but I am enjoying it so far.

When I get time I want to try and work up a subsonic load for it to use with a suppressor. I didn't chrono these loads from the rifle, but they seemed to have a bit more snap than out of the handguns. Will have to do some comparison with the chronograph to verify.

 

[orygun]

I just made myself chuckle thinking I should start my post with , "Well, back in the day I had..."
For years I was a 41 Mag reloader, shooter and fan (still a fan). I paired my Ruger Blackhawk with a Marlin 1894. The velocity bonus from the carbine barrel was about 500fps over the 6.5" Blackhawk! It was a stomper. In the end the Marlin went down the road rolleyes: that muther trucker is very valuable now...) because I have a Winchester 30-30. There's quite the difference between a rifle round and a pistol round.
Unlike the 41 Mag the 10mm gains very little, if any velocity in a carbine barrel, which is unfortunate. The ability to put bullets on target easier than with a pistol may prove important enough to override that, depending on intended purposes. I'd probably consider them defensive instead of a hunting tool.
I've owned three carbines that were chambered in pistol/revolver cartridges. Both Camp Carbines (9mm & 45ACP) and the 1984 (41 Mag). The ammunition commonality aside, the attraction was lost on me.
Ruger isn't the first company to market an auto cartridge chambered carbine. There's the TC73 in 9mm. Seems like more than one company thinks there is a market for this kinda stuff. I've got no problem with that. Variety is the spice of life.

 

[orygun]

I saw BiMart had these as a "Web Only" item at a price that I could stomach so I snagged one. First outing at the range today with it and it ran like a champ. About 90 rounds of 180 grain handloads that I use in my two other 10mm handguns and it cycled and functioned great, and rang the steel every shot. Was only about 35 or 40 yards where I was shooting today; I need to stretch it's legs at longer distances to give it a more thorough evaluation but I am enjoying it so far.

When I get time I want to try and work up a subsonic load for it to use with a suppressor. I didn't chrono these loads from the rifle, but they seemed to have a bit more snap than out of the handguns. Will have to do some comparison with the chronograph to verify.

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I do love the 1894. Nice lookin gun.

 

[orygun]

The 1894's older, but smaller brother, the Model 1892.

 

[Nosferatu]

I got one a few weeks ago. Super nicely built and while I haven't done any real tests with it, it's functioned fine, has a good trigger, smooth action and expertly finished.

This is my first Ruglin and thus far, I'm impressed.

 

[User 1234]

I got one a few weeks ago. Super nicely built and while I haven't done any real tests with it, it's functioned fine, has a good trigger, smooth action and expertly finished.

This is my first Ruglin and thus far, I'm impressed.

Is it drilled and tapped for a scope?

 

[Nosferatu]

Is it drilled and tapped for a scope?

Yes.

 

[Spitpatch]

The 1894's older, but smaller brother, the Model 1892.

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The '92"s older brother, the Model 1889. This one happens to be chambered in .38-40 (actually 40 calliber), a cartridge which would (just as the .41 Magnum) put the 10mm to shame launched from a rifle platform. A gun like this can be had for a ballpark figure comparable to a Ruger knockoff, and next year this one would bring 10-20% more than paid for, should the owner choose to liquidate.

To each his own I would agree, but I cannot imagine a practical purpose for a lever gun in an auto pistol cartridge, other than turning money into noise.

Having said that, I also cannot deny my puzzlement at the expressions of unbounded glee I repeatedly see on the faces of those who engage in it.

 

[aasbra]

Nice rifle!

This video draws a comparison as you have and reinforces the point you make. They both are 40 caliber "Marlin" lever actions. Beyond that, there are quite a few differences which may draw someone to one or the other.

View: https://youtu.be/G0tJSFVeXlI?si=Wj-lr50T58UMD5Uh


I have levers chambered in .22LR to 45-70. This is an interesting niche for me. Pairs with a couple other pistols I already reload for, and 10mm is a good one to reload. 40 cal bullet options go a bit heavier than .35 cal for loading 38/357. Smaller case capacity compared to 38/357 or 44 mag/44 special, which could be beneficial for loading subsonic. I plan to use this for plinking steel plates and silhouettes at the range mainly, and use a suppressor with subsonic ammo.

 

[Nosferatu]

To each his own I would agree, but I cannot imagine a practical purpose for a lever gun in an auto pistol cartridge, other than turning money into noise.

Those sloppy old rattletraps in disappearing cartridges are rusting and fading away just slightly slower than the gatekeeper Fudds who will scream at anyone in earshot about how anything newer is uesless.

I mean, I can't imagine anyone 'back in the day' needing one of them new-fangled lever-rackers in those expensive brass-cased factory loaded cartridge jobbers when a perfectly good muzzle stuffer gets the job done.

 

[Spitpatch]

I had such great hopes, and yet the gun's practical purpose remains an enigma now not only to myself.

 

[monkeybutler]

I don't understand the utility of a 10mm lever gun. Unless it was an SBR.