Is this a vertical foregrip?

[JohnnyMac]

Will this little device turn my pistol into an SBR?

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[CRBMoA]

That makes it a Machine Gun

 

[Nosferatu]

Mount it to a side rail and it's a horizontal grip.

 

[GrayGoose]

That certainly looks like something that will spook the liberals.

 

[JohnnyMac]

That certainly looks like something that will spook the liberals.

That's what I fear.

 

[jbett98]

$12 bucks might get you 12 years.

 

[ronin223]

no, you cannot put your whole hand on it so no

 

[Gunner3456]

Looks like a great retirement plan. Let the government take care of you for the rest of your life.

#Lets Go Brandon

 

[JohnnyMac]

no, you cannot put your whole hand on it so no

Interesting...I'll have to look it up a little deeper. I'd want to read this to confirm.

 

[jbett98]

Looks like a great retirement plan. Let the government take care of you for the rest of your life.

#Lets Go Brandon

There are poor elderly Japanese folks that do just that in the fall months. They do a petty crime that gives them five to six months in a nice warm jail with free meals and medical care.

 

[CRBMoA]

Interesting...I'll have to look it up a little deeper. I'd want to read this to confirm.

Define 'hand'.

I am only 5'11", but my hands are huge.

 

[titsonritz]

no, you cannot put your whole hand on it so no

 

[slimmer13]

Looks like someone is trying to spice things up in the bedroom.

 

[JohnnyMac]

Define 'hand'.

I am only 5'11", but my hands are huge.

Allegedly.....

 

[User 1234]

Will this little device turn my pistol into an SBR?

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Do you mean turn it into an AOW? A shoulder stock would turn it into an SBR.

 

[CRBMoA]

Allegedly.....

 

[JohnnyMac]

Do you mean turn it into an AOW? A shoulder stock would turn it into an SBR.

Thank you. That is more of what I was looking for. I found this under examples of an AOW:

Pistols with a second vertical grip:
Many pistols feature a rail below the barrel, commonly used to mount a laser or flashlight. Attaching a vertical grip to this rail constitutes the manufacturing of an AOW firearm, as it is "no longer designed to be held and fired by the use of a single hand."[20] It is therefore illegal to place an aftermarket vertical foregrip on any pistol without first registering it as an AOW and paying the $200 "making and registering tax". Failure to do so is a felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison.[20] However, if the receiver was originally manufactured to accept either a long or short barrel and a removable buttstock and fore grip and it can be assembled either as a rifle or a pistol, according to ATF rule 2011-4 it is not considered an NFA weapon as long as it is only assembled as a pistol without a buttstock or as a rifle with a barrel at least 16 inches long.[21] A vertical foregrip MAY be added to a pistol as long as the Overall Length (OAL) is greater than 26", regardless of barrel length, and providing the weapon remains unconcealed.[22] An AR-15 pistol with an overall length of 26" or longer may have a vertical foregrip installed, as long as no buttstock is installed in conjunction with a shorter than 16" barrel. The Sig Sauer Pistol Braces (SBS and SBX) are commonly found on these AR-15 style pistols with vertical foregrips since they are not considered buttstocks. The ATF does not consider a weapon in this configuration to be an AOW, but instead classifies it as a 'Firearm' which does not require any tax stamp or additional registration.

I will have to review ATF rule 2011-4 to make sure that this is actually a correct statement seeing that I gleaned it from Wiki.