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I need info on a Bubba'd Winchester 1892

Discussion in 'Maintenance & Gunsmithing' started by SPU, Nov 16, 2014.

  1. SPU

    SPU Southwest Oregon Old Fart

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    It is enough to make you cry, but I am in possession of a first year, 4 digit serial number 1892 in .38-40 that is beautiful.

    Unfortunately Bubba got to it at some point and cut a large notch in the bolt by the hammer, I assume to put in some kind of sight. It cycles, and supposedly shoots. Worse still is he drilled two holes on the left side of the receiver and drilled out the hole for the screw that holds the bolt pin in place. So if you shoot it yo have to keep tapping the bolt pin back in pace.

    I had an experienced gunsmith tell me it wasn't worth fixing and sell it for parts. But I'm stubborn.

    I know it isn't worth what I paid for it, but I would like to at least make it a shooter. My questions are -- can any bolt of the period be used or must it be a replacement in the same caliber? I can get an 1890's vintage bolt from a 44-40 rifle reasonably priced. My second question is: Can a good gunsmith make screws for the odd shaped tapped holes to fill them in or is the wall of the receiver too thin? Would it be easier to just try to find another receiver somewhere? Again, does it have to be caliber-specific?

    I obviously don't know anything about Winchesters, and it was an expensive-lesson impulse buy. Advice needed and appreciated.
     
  2. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    You need to ask these same questions on the Winchester Collectors Forum. Photos will help. These are the guys who write the collectors magazine articles and beautiful coffee table books on Winchesters collectively they know everything that is known about these rifles.

    http://winchestercollector.org/
     
  3. SPU

    SPU Southwest Oregon Old Fart

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    I did not know of them.
    Good idea. Thank you.
     
  4. SPU

    SPU Southwest Oregon Old Fart

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    Mark W. that was good advice. I got the answers I needed within hours. It looks like the old Winchester may live to shoot again.
     
  5. netcarrier

    netcarrier Portland, Oregon Active Member

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    HEY maybe I can help give me a call Tony Portland, Oregon Area 503-260-3906 :)
     
  6. SPU

    SPU Southwest Oregon Old Fart

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    Well it took about a year. Without Tony's help I never would have found a bolt with correct patina. Thanks Tony! On ebay I found an original, correct early peep sight in great shape. The ivory front bed had to be replaced as it was too mall for the rear sight. The buckhorn sight in the rear was from an 1873, so I traded it for some gunsmithing work. I had a blank put in the rear dovetail. The holes bubba put in the receiver were given new screws that were aged. All buggered screws externally and internally, where possible, were replaced with period correct screws in good shape.

    The stock I cleaned and waxed. The action was cleaned by the smith. I cleaned the bore. Chunks of lead and grime came out for days -- I put it down and worked on it over time. Some minor pitting but grooves and lands are shiny and very good.

    She shoots straight and is purdy. Photos to follow.

    :)
     
  7. SPU

    SPU Southwest Oregon Old Fart

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    1892 action.jpg 1892 left stock.jpg 1892 right stock.jpg 1892 full length.jpg 1892 left barrel.jpg 1892 right side.jpg 1892 left receiver.jpg

    1892 action.jpg

    1892 left receiver.jpg

    1892 left stock.jpg

    1892 right stock.jpg

    1892 full length.jpg

    1892 left barrel.jpg

    1892 right side.jpg
     
  8. netcarrier

    netcarrier Portland, Oregon Active Member

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    Did not know that I helped, but glad I did if you up my way I would love to see it...:)
     
  9. SPU

    SPU Southwest Oregon Old Fart

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    Darn, those were the before pictures... looking for the after pictures.
     
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    SPU Southwest Oregon Old Fart

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    1892 right side long view.jpg 1892 right side.jpg 1892 left side barrel.jpg 1892 left side receiver.jpg 1892 receiver right side.jpg 1892 left side stock and tang sight.jpg 1892 left side barrel.jpg 1892 reloading tools.jpg

    1892 right side long view.jpg

    1892 right side.jpg

    1892 left side barrel.jpg

    1892 left side receiver.jpg

    1892 receiver right side.jpg

    1892 left side stock and tang sight.jpg

    1892 left side barrel.jpg

    1892 reloading tools.jpg
     
  11. SPU

    SPU Southwest Oregon Old Fart

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    The reloading tools are original, and I made up a black powder cartridge with FFG that fired. All in all a rewarding and sometimes frustrating project.
     
  12. SPU

    SPU Southwest Oregon Old Fart

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    If I get the chance I will show it to you. I never would have found a replacement bolt without you.