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Gunsmith for SBS conversion

Discussion in 'NFA Weapon Discussion' started by osterr1999, Jan 18, 2012.

  1. osterr1999

    osterr1999 Silverton, OR Active Member

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    Anyone know a good gunsmith in the Portland/Salem area that can take my double barrel shotgun and cut it down? I was told by a gunsmith I know that they have to be a class 3 manufacture, which seems to be tough to find. Any leads would be greatly appreciated.
     
  2. HandSolo

    HandSolo hillsboro New Member

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    Tornado Tech
     
  3. osterr1999

    osterr1999 Silverton, OR Active Member

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    Thanks. I will check them out. Have they done any work for you or have you just heard of them?
     
  4. FORKLIFT252

    FORKLIFT252 Oregon Active Member

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    R&R targets. ...race proven government approved.
     
  5. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    Just a point here. If you just want a short barrel shotgun without a stock you can buy them new manufacture and only have to pay a $5 transfer tax. If you need a butt stock on your short barrel gun you will have to pay a full $200 tax. Might be better to save your double and buy a new manufacture gun. Just saying...

    jj
     
  6. HandSolo

    HandSolo hillsboro New Member

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    I have had atleast 3 things threaded there... quality people..


    Just Jim

    You have no idea what you are talking about
     
  7. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    You know it's just funny how few people really know about short shotguns. Just today I went with a class two manufacturer to have his new manufacture short barrel shotguns engraved with new name and logo. He sells them all the time. The law is you may not cut off a barrel from a shotgun if it ever had a shoulder stock unless you pay a $200 tax to register it.

    If the shotgun never had a butt stock then when you cut off the barrel you pay a $5 any other weapon tax. If you need further clarification then come to the Albany Gunshow this weekend and check out the new guns he is selling. Hope this helps.

    jj
     
  8. nrc

    nrc Oregon Member

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    The gunsmith does not need to be an SOT (class iii dealer) to cut the barrel off. If you are form 1-ing a SBS, then anyone, including you, your neighbor, cousin, uncle etc. can cut the barrel off *after the atf has approved your stamp*. You are the 'manufacturer' as listed on the form 1 - but that doesn't mean you have to do all the labor.

    Most folks aren't familiar with handling class iii items, and that is their right to be cautious. A gunsmith who is uncomfortable can refuse to work on anything he/she wants.

    Re $5 vs $200 -- yes you can register an AOW for $5 if it a.) never had a stock and b.) is never going to have a stock. Personally, I would pay the full $200 either way - just so I would have an option later to add a stock if I wanted.

    Most of the laws are convoluted, and few if any make any logical sense. Its worth the extra time to do your homework.

    Nate
     
  9. civilian75

    civilian75 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    I know this is confusing as heck so here I go:

    Anyone can mfg a SBS or a AOW after getting a Form 1 approved. But if you are not a class 3 mfg, no matter what you mfg, it'll require a $200 stamp. The $5 applies ONLY to an AOW "transfer" on a Form 4 (IIRC). Said another way, you need a class 3 manufacturer to "manufacture" your AOW using a receiver that has never been a shotgun or will never be, then, transfer the AOW to you on a Form 4. That's how you end up paying for a $5 stamp.
     
  10. GreginWA

    GreginWA Enumclaw, WA Member

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    How about to cut barrels in general? hunting to tactical lengths.

    Price expected to pay?
     
  11. HandSolo

    HandSolo hillsboro New Member

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    Crap I just re-read what you posted.. you where right I was drunk..

    but most SOT's won't take your pistol only shotgun and AOW it.. they like to buy it so they know firsthand it was never a stocked shotgun..

    as a side note my Serbu SS form 4 was approved last month and I can't wait to go pick it up .. WOOT!
     
  12. osterr1999

    osterr1999 Silverton, OR Active Member

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    You will love the super shorty. I have one and it is a ton of fun.
     
  13. nrc

    nrc Oregon Member

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    You are right about that! I saw them and thought it was a silly expense (not that I judge others - shoot whatever you want...) then my former boss picked one up and let me shoot it at the range. I was very surprised at just how much fun they are.
     
  14. HandSolo

    HandSolo hillsboro New Member

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    Meh I paid $500 and a $5 tax stamp ( :
     
  15. Swedish K

    Swedish K SW Washington Moderator Staff Member

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    Yes it can be confusing - actually (being really nitpicky here) Technically speaking a III is a firearms dealer who can buy/sell NFA items. An 07/02 is a Manufacturer (07 FFL) with an 02 (or II) SOT that allows them to build/work on NFA items. - Not trying to poke ya with a stick or stir the pot...
     
  16. civilian75

    civilian75 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    Yes, you are right. Be a picky as you want. And that's ok. I was lazy and did not want to look/clean up each bubblegumming term. The faux pass does not change the main message.
     
  17. NUCLEARMJ

    NUCLEARMJ Lafayette/Hillsboro Member

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    Where on earth did you find one for that cheap? Thats a smokin deal
     
  18. osterr1999

    osterr1999 Silverton, OR Active Member

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    Gregin,

    Check out the Tornado Technologies site. It looks like they will cut your hunting barrel down for about $65.
     
  19. pogi

    pogi Gresham, OR Active Member

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    They call him "Hand"Solo for a reason. :paranoid:
     
  20. keitha300wsm

    keitha300wsm Lebanon, OR Member

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    Dick D&D Sports will have a table this week end at Lebanon Elks Club. $495 + $5 tax New 870 w/ 12" barrel SBS.jpg or 541-258-6811