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Gun violence facts.

The reality is, both the left and the right side of the argument get a lot wrong. First of all gun violence has been around for a very long time. Long before legislators thought about passing laws. Secondly, our constitutional rights have been violated many times over the last several hundred years in regards to the Second Amendment. In fact many local governments, have argued to the point of the majority to state they can control the access of firearms in their communities.

So I digress, gun violence is a very real thing. It is also not unique to our country. Anti-gun person's claim that United States is violence oriented, and uses a firearm to complete this task. In reality other countries that had their guns banned or limited heavily, had a much lower population, and a much lower access of firearms. As an example, Australia is the anti-gun nut jobs dream state. The problem is, prior to their anti-gun legislation, Australia had more violence per capita, and United States. Furthermore approximately 1 in 50 people there owned a firearm. In fact when firearms are being turned in the amount was less than 1/20 of the amount of firearms in the United States right now. But it looks good on paper, to show a place that has no firearms, and a low population was affected by gun legislation. Again the reality is Australia still has shootings in a place where guns are basically banned.

What cannot be ignored, by the anti-gun establishment, is there is a built-in gun culture in this society. Whether you choose to look at muskets or semiautomatic rifles. The reality is a whole economic, and social network that creates this culture. You may be happy to know, by gun ownership, most citizens are still pro-gun. In fact in a study done by the Giffords, information was suppressed that showed, most all citizens agreed the need for a firearm exists. You hear the argument that most people in the United States think there should be some form of gun control. The reality is most people support background checks, however the anti-gun people, twist this into saying they support gun control. Actually more people support the right to have and bear arms than they do gun control.

I know we are in trouble times right now, and we all worry awful lot about the future. But we are not alone the majority of the population here in the United States, is part of the gun culture that exists and has existed for over 200 years. The influence may be affected slightly year-to-year, but overall the strength still exists in owners of firearms. However we must step forward, and use this influence we still have, to guide ourselves into the next millennia, so our children can have the same rights we enjoy today.
 
To be honest the thread title is bothersome to me....
Violence is violence...it should make no difference in what I use to commit the act of violence.
If I poison someone and they die are they any less dead than if
I stab them...
Hit them with a hammer...
Run them over with my car...
Beat them to death with my fists...
Shoot them...

It is far past the time to quit focusing on the item used and start looking at :
The person who committed the crime...
Enforcing the laws already in place...
What laws and systems are working and what ones are not...
The reasons why violence is committed...
And tied into the above ...Why is violence seen as a option...
Andy
 
Gun Violence? I HATE that term. Guns are not violent. A mass shooting antis want to blame
the gun. Not the whack job pulling the trigger.:eek: "Gun Violence" includes suicide, justifiable
homicide and murder. A person killed by a DUI driver is that car violence? Or alcohol violence?
Have you ever heard of "opioid violence" or medical malpractice violence". :(
 
To be honest the thread title is bothersome to me....
Violence is violence...it should make no difference in what I use to commit the act of violence.
If I poison someone and they die are they any less dead than if
I stab them...
Hit them with a hammer...
Run them over with my car...
Beat them to death with my fists...
Shoot them...

Andy
I have to agree with you violence is violence no matter how it is preformed.

Why is it when they talk about suicides there are 44193 committed and the 22018 with a gun is considered gun violence and the 22175 from by hanging/strangulation/suffocation and poisoning/other is not only not talked about, but not considered violence.

The Oklahoma City bombing killed 168 and wounded 680 is this not truck violence as a truck was used to commit the crime.

In Nice France 84 people were killed and around 202 injured by a truck driver, so is this not truck violence. This was just 8 months after 130 were killed in the Paris attach and Paris considered it terrorism not gun violence.

It is only gun violence when there is an agenda to demonize the gun in my opinion.
 
The term gun violence along with assault weapon we're coined by the media and politicians back in the early 90s, during the Clinton administration.
And second of all there is no epidemic, if the elected officials would demand that the laws that exist are passed are enforced, there wouldn't be as much strife on the Second Amendment.

Take my word for it folks, this is not about controlling crime it's about controlling gun owners.
 
'Gun Violence' a term beloved by anti-gun folk who then go one to couch their remaining words to sound like they're pro-gun when they're not.

Why do I not hear about 'anti-fa violence'?

Where is that term hiding?

Dress up all the dem/lib/socialist/commie terms you prefer, you're transparent...
 
I have never done anything violent to a gun. Ever. OK, so there was that one time where I put a UTG fixed rear sight on an AR, but that was merely humiliation.
 
Stopping gun violence is not about the violence-----it's about stopping guns PERIOD. WE waste a lot of time fighting that phrase but no matter what we say it will not help--- because that is not the problem ---it's the excuse to disarm every one. We need to emphasize the true advantages of an armed society.
 

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