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Idaho Greg Pruett (ISAA) again regarding Red Flag Laws

A major problem with red flag laws, is that the standard of proof -- at least in WA -- is a preponderance of the evidence (not clear and convincing). A "preponderance" might sound impressive, but is really just any confidence level over a coin flip on whether the decision is correct. A coin flip represents a random event, a preponderance is just a hair better, so if the judge is 50.000001% confident that your guns should be confiscated, and 49.999999% unsure if it is the right thing to do, you lose your guns.

(2) Upon hearing the matter, if the court finds by a preponderance of the evidence that the respondent poses a significant danger of causing personal injury to self or others by having in his or her custody or control, purchasing, possessing, or receiving a firearm, the court shall issue an extreme risk protection order for a period of one year.
  • Woke Up Like This
I’m not near my pc with the scanner this weekend but I wrote our Idaho legislature and received “maybe” a canned reply letter - I’ll scan it and post it Monday -


Wolf Creek Rd Public Shooting Lanes Cleanup!
North Fork Wolf Creek Rd public shooting lanes
N Fork Wolf Creek Rd, Oregon 97144, USA
ARPC Speed Steel
ARPC (Albany Rifle & Pistol Club)
29999 Saddle Butte Rd, Shedd, OR 97377, USA
NRA Pistol marksmanship Simulator Training
Defensive Arts Center
4620 SW Beaverton Hillsdale Hwy C2, Portland, OR 97221, USA
.22 Rimfire Challenge
Douglas Ridge Rifle Club
27787 OR-224, Eagle Creek, OR 97022, USA
Cerberus Training Group - Run the Gun - Pistol April 4th
Cerberus Training Group
47 Cattle Dr, Goldendale, WA 98620, USA


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