GLOCK V ALREADY HAS A SWITCH

[1775usmc]

And would they go so far as to ban current ownership of Glocks as well?

Good luck.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Any firearm or firearm accessory can ( will ) end up on someone's "You can't own this" list.

Enforcement of the same is problematic.

That said.....

We already have over 20,000 firearm laws here in the USA.
If laws , bans , restrictions , requirements were the answer...then the problem would have been solved long ago.

If you want a different result....you gotta do something different.

Since all that is really done is making yet another law , ban , restriction , etc....
It seems to me like those who propose such a things....don't really want the problem solved.
But only want to curtail / ban firearms and firearm ownership all together.

Andy

 

[jbett98]

Gaston Glock wouldn't have caved in to changing his beloved Glock pistols. For years, he balked at removing the round post in the plastic shipping case that was responsible for a couple of accidental discharges by stupid folk who put fully loaded pistols in the shipping case, and when handled roughly, they would discharge a round when the post inside the trigger guard would push hard against the trigger, even though the factory instructions clearly state to not put a loaded gun with a round in the chamber.

 

[Koda]

And would they go so far as to ban current ownership of Glocks as well?

Good luck.

Look at how many places have banned ARs.

 

[1775usmc]

Look at how many places have banned ARs.

New purchases. Not the grandfathered ones.

 

[AshWilliams]

So how did the video creators legally install the switch and proceed to make a video of them mag dumping a fully automatic new Glock V?

 

[Knobgoblin]

Gotta admit, the guy had excellent control.

It's a compensated 9mm.

Still, he's making it look easy.

 

[AshWilliams]

What I think may be the case is the pistol that is actually doing the shooting is not a Glock V with an illegal switch installed but a different Glock that is already fully auto with some sort of mock-up switch installed on the back. If you look near the beginning of the video he is purposely hiding the rear of the pistol with his thumb and then when the camera supposedly pans back he has the "glock switch gun" ready.

If this were real and no trickery afoot this would be the guy's driveway very quickly.

 

[1775usmc]

What I think may be the case is the pistol that is actually doing the shooting is not a Glock V with an illegal switch installed but a different Glock that is already fully auto with some sort of mock-up switch installed on the back. If you look near the beginning of the video he is purposely hiding the rear of the pistol with his thumb and then when the camera supposedly pans back he has the "glock switch gun" ready.

If this were real and no trickery afoot this would be the guy's driveway very quickly.
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He's hiding the back of the slide because it has a switch on it and everyone was under the impression that the new model wouldn't allow for a switch.

Surprise!

Pewpew has a ton of full autos. Legally I'm assuming. So I am assuming he has the Glock switch legally too. The guy makes all his money on YouTube. So to do something illegal, taunting the ATF would be unwise financially and personally.

 

[AshWilliams]

He's hiding the back of the slide because it has a switch on it and everyone was under the impression that the new model wouldn't allow for a switch.

Surprise!

Pewpew has a ton of full autos. Legally I'm assuming. So I am assuming he has the Glock switch legally too. The guy makes all his money on YouTube. So to do something illegal, taunting the ATF would be unwise financially and personally.

Right, but in other shots you can clearly see the firearm with some kind of switch on the back, which is obviously illegal. My point is that this video has stayed up on YouTube and is being shared on Reddit and various firearm forums without any repercussions. My theory is that when he shows the Glock V, he deliberately keeps the back of the pistol out of view so you associate the next shots (of the pistol with the "mock Glock switch") as the Glock V firing, when in reality it's probably a completely different full-auto Glock.


It's just a theory, but I don't see how they could install an illegal Glock switch, put their face in the video, and publish it everywhere online without getting arrested.

 

[Alexx1401]

Watch Kalifornia closely, if such nonsense were to start, that's where I'd expect it. Or possibly Illinois…

Don't sell us short up here is WA. We regularly tell CA to hold me beer and watch this as we race to the bottom.

Looks like he was using an after market clear happy stick. Makes me wonder if the video was AI as I would be shocked that one of those would feed that well

 

[1775usmc]

Right, but in other shots you can clearly see the firearm with some kind of switch on the back, which is obviously illegal. My point is that this video has stayed up on YouTube and is being shared on Reddit and various firearm forums without any repercussions. My theory is that when he shows the Glock V, he deliberately keeps the back of the pistol out of view so you associate the next shots (of the pistol with the "mock Glock switch") as the Glock V firing, when in reality it's probably a completely different full-auto Glock.


It's just a theory, but I don't see how they could install an illegal Glock switch, put their face in the video, and publish it everywhere online without getting arrested.

Having a switch isn't illegal if you have the correct paperwork.

 

[AshWilliams]

Having a switch isn't illegal if you have the correct paperwork.

I'm out of my element here in regards to automatic weapons legality.

So you're saying I can purchase (let's say one of the Chinese Amazon type places) or manufacture a full auto switch after I have applied for paperwork with the Feds, and then install it and have an automatic handgun provided I'm approved?

 

[Alexx1401]

I'm out of my element here in regards to automatic weapons legality.

So you're saying I can purchase (let's say one of the Chinese Amazon type places) or manufacture a full auto switch after I have applied for paperwork with the Feds, and then install it and have an automatic handgun provided I'm approved?

No, not for the "normal" person. What you can do is if the state you are in allows it is buy one that is transferable though. Then put that switch on any Glock. This is what many are suspecting the guy did. That he was firing an old version with a switch he legally owns.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

No, not for the "normal" person. What you can do is if the state you are in allows it is buy one that is transferable though. Then put that switch on any Glock. This is what many are suspecting the guy did. That he was firing an old version with a switch he legally owns.

I didn't know there were any pre 86' Glock switches. I thought Glocks only just came out around that time?

If he has a SOT license he can produce post sample machine guns legally.

 

[Alexx1401]

I didn't know there were any pre 86' Glock switches. I thought Glocks only just came out around that time?

If he has a SOT license he can produce post sample machine guns legally.

Started importing them about the same year the atf cut off the select fire but have seen a few people with a transferable 18. So some must have been papered before the cut off. As you mentioned he may be a SOT holder too. If I was ever to win the lotto I guess I would have to get one just for the damn fun of playing

 

[orygun]

Look at how many places have banned ARs.

New purchases. Not the grandfathered ones.

Like that's really comforting.

 

[1775usmc]

Like that's really comforting.

Not at all. But to think they're gunna go knocking door to door asking for your Glocks is a pipe dream.

They'll just do what they always do and make it illegal to sell or transfer them within the state forcing people to sell them outside of the state or skirt the law and sell them privately.

It's not like the gang bangers bought their Glocks legally from the get go. That whole criminals don't obey laws kinda goes hand in hand. When there are no consequences for breaking the law people will continue to do so.

The only ones affected are the law abiding individuals who know if THEY get caught they will prosecuted to the fullest extent. Especially if they don't fall within a certain demographic.

 

[titsonritz]

We already have over 20,000 firearm laws here in the USA.
If laws , bans , restrictions , requirements were the answer...then the problem would have been solved long ago.

Well, as long as there's no infringement or anything like that.

 

[magnummike]

So how did the video creators legally install the switch and proceed to make a video of them mag dumping a fully automatic new Glock V?

From my understanding (which is limited) a 07 FFL and SOT Class 2 licensed person, can legally modify firearms to full auto, and under certain circumstances, glock switches for law enforcement and/or military is legal. I am not 100%, as that is just what I have gathered from information, could be completely bull. Not 100% sure here either (in this video), nor do I know the behind the scenes of what is going on in this video, but I can only imagine that laws are being followed.

Secondly, from my resesrch, there is a person on reddit, who broke down how they converted a Glock V to accept a switch, from what I have read, all Glock did was modify the Glock Vs to not be "easily converted/switched" for legal purposes, as it would require some machining and modification, but still quite doable, by the looks. In the end, it takes liability away from Glock, as the owner of the pistol would now have to modify it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Glocks/comments/1p0qps2/glock_v_switch_update

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/Glocks/comments/1p0qps2/glock_v_switch_update/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Glocks/comments/1p0v9gc/as_promised_a_video_of_the_glock_v_switch

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/Glocks/comments/1p0v9gc/as_promised_a_video_of_the_glock_v_switch/