Can anybody identify this holster?

[gmerkt]

Military type flap holster. I know the many German and occupied holster products of WW2, which it resembles in some cases but isn't. Next my thinking was, maybe Spanish for one of the Stars. The magazine pocket is kinda wide, like for 9mm Largo maybe. The construction on the rear edge is different. Instead of the outer shell stitched on the the back piece, there is a narrow intermediate piece that brings the front and back together. The holster is about 1911 size. Markings stamped into the leather on the back are (something) --00-080. No markings on the inside of the flap. Six digit ink pen marking on belt loop, presumably a serial number. Ideas?

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[Richo877]

Luger?

 

[Knobgoblin]

First guess.
Cz52

 

[gmerkt]

First guess.
Cz52

It's a good guess. BUT: none of the six shown in the picture have the extra piece of leather stitched on the rear edge. The keeper flap is different. The magazine dimensions are similar.

I forgot, this holster has a cleaning rod inside. With a leather strip stitched in place for holding. The rod shown below doesn't look like the loop handle rod for the CZ52. The T handle on the rod below folds. Maybe someone will recognize the rod.

Of course there might've been more designs for the CZ52.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Just a WAG....
A post war Browning Hi-Power holster...?
Andy

 

[Knobgoblin]

It's a good guess. BUT: none of the six shown in the picture have the extra piece of leather stitched on the rear edge. The keeper flap is different. The magazine dimensions are similar.

I forgot, this holster has a cleaning rod inside. With a leather strip stitched in place for holding. The rod shown below doesn't look like the loop handle rod for the CZ52. The T handle on the rod below folds. Maybe someone will recognize the rod.

Of course there might've been more designs for the CZ52.

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It's the wider , flat( single stack ) mag pouch.
Cz 52 mags are like that.

 

[gmerkt]

A post war Browning Hi-Power holster...?

Fat mag won't fit in mag pocket.

Cz 52

I looked inside, there is an impression of the slide burnished into the leather. It's wrong for a CZ52, which has that long narrow flat toward the front. What this one's got looks more like a 1911. I'm still thinking Star, although I can't find a picture yet that would link it to that make. The Spanish had a number of paramilitary organizations in addition to armed forces. Plus, it came from the guy who had several large frame Stars. But no serial number match up.

I think I will go get my big, fat, expensive Star book and see if it has any holster pictures.

 

[gmerkt]

The Antaris book on Star pistols has nothing on holsters. All that data, nothing on holsters.

 

[Knobgoblin]

Based on cleaning rod.
Zastava m 57 . Yugo. 7.62×25.

 

[Knobgoblin]

 

[gmerkt]

Thank you. I just found one like it online myself a few minutes ago. I was going though every country in Europe, Yugo was one of my last stops.

Now it makes sense, there is a Zastava M57 in this guy's stuff. But it's not military, it seems to be one such made expressly for export. There are also 4 or 5 hundred rounds of 7,62x25 to go along with it.

This design explains the wide magazine pocket.

I've got another to me oddball in this stuff, in 9mm Makarov. I think it's a CZ82? No holster for it to ID, though. There is also a CZ83 in .380. Two guns I have no love for. He couldn't have bought a decent model like a CZ75.

He also left me eight Berettas, never my favorite brand but the models he bought were a bunch of junk, in my opinion. No 92 series. There is a Model 951 in 9mm, made in the 1970's and those bring a little money. A precursor to the 92.

I think a lot of this oddball stuff he bought at the end of gun shows when he hadn't found a nice Colt or Smith & Wesson to buy.

 

[Knobgoblin]

Thank you. I just found one like it online myself a few minutes ago. I was going though every country in Europe, Yugo was one of my last stops.

Now it makes sense, there is a Zastava M57 in this guy's stuff. But it's not military, it seems to be one such made expressly for export. There are also 4 or 5 hundred rounds of 7,62x25 to go along with it.

This design explains the wide magazine pocket.

I've got another to me oddball in this stuff, in 9mm Makarov. I think it's a CZ82? No holster for it to ID, though. There is also a CZ83 in .380. Two guns I have no love for. He couldn't have bought a decent model like a CZ75.

He also left me eight Berettas, never my favorite brand but the models he bought were a bunch of junk, in my opinion. No 92 series. There is a Model 951 in 9mm, made in the 1970's and those bring a little money. A precursor to the 92.

I think a lot of this oddball stuff he bought at the end of gun shows when he hadn't found a nice Colt or Smith & Wesson to buy.

There's a small following for everything you mentioned.
Those berettas with the European mag release at the heel of the grip? I love the lines , but can't stand the manual of arms.
The double stack Maks? Some of the best natural pointers I've ever shot. I had the 9x18 version of the CZ . Great parkerized refinish, nice wood grips, very nice trigger. I could hit clays with it inside 10 feet without using the sights.

 

[gmerkt]

The double stack Maks

Is the CZ82 a double stack magazine? I didn't notice, my eyes were immediately drawn to the big, clownish trigger guard. Which I guess might be fine in case you are wearing heavy gloves in a Czech winter.

Most of these things went into storage, I pulled the magazines out of them until I got tired of doing it, then just boxed the rest up with mags. Before I even started, I had a box with 250 or more loose magazines in it. The common ones like 1911's (various calibers), Walther P.38, etc., I can recognize. But many I put in cheap sandwich bags with a card saying what it fits. That goes fully for the Berettas. I wouldn't know a Beretta mag from a bale of hay unless it was marked.

The Berettas consist of 21A Bobcat .22; the M951 Brigadier; 950 Jetfire .25; 950-S .25; 84FS .380; M70 .380; 85-F .380. There was an 87-BB in .22 but it was missing from inventory and it's anyone's guess as to where it went. I'm guessing the former owner sold it and didn't update his records. I've had half a dozen cases where I suspect that happened. However, you know how "gun people" like to "hide out" guns, just in case. I wouldn't be surprised if the executor finds one or more of these when he starts moving furniture around. There was a custom made end table that I knew had a false compartment in it 20 years ago; we checked that and it only contained empty factory gun cases these days.

If ever there was a story about "crazy gun people," this would be it.