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AR PISTOL ON RIFLE LOWER???

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by bluecz97b, Mar 7, 2011.

  1. bluecz97b

    bluecz97b Gresham Member

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    Can you legally build an ar pistol on a ar rifle lower or do you have to use a pistol lower for it to be legal?
     
  2. Unka-Boo

    Unka-Boo Milwaukie Active Member

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    "stripped", OK

    "pistol", OK

    "rifle", No

    If it has been a rifle at one time in it's life, or if it was transferred as a long gun on the 4473, you can't build a pistol on it. If it was bought as a bare or "stripped" receiver, you can build it as whatever you want.
     
  3. fromotoc

    fromotoc Downtown Portland, OR Member

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    /thread.
     
  4. bluecz97b

    bluecz97b Gresham Member

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    i bought it as a brand new stripped reciever ftf. how do i know if it was ever transfered on a 4473 as a long gun?
     
  5. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Unless you can trace it back to the FFL and ask them to look up the form, you can't
     
  6. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    Just start from a new lower or a lower you can physically see is from a pistol/marked as a pistol lower.
    No amount of fun is worth the head aches

    "once a rifle,always a rifle" ?
     
  7. Tommy34

    Tommy34 Kalama Washington New Member

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    No you can not if you get caught its bad juju
     
  8. Tommy34

    Tommy34 Kalama Washington New Member

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    a friend of mine who has a pistol just to see if it would fit but the long gun lower on a pistol is cool looking but not cool to shoot the back pressure is nasty and not worth it and to put a long upper on a pistol lower is just stupid that bare buffer tube hurts like **** when it digs into you shoulder
     
  9. Schwabdl

    Schwabdl Hillsboro Active Member

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    um.......................ok how many laws did you just admit you violated on a public forum
     
  10. Grommit327

    Grommit327 Buckley Active Member

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    Technically I don't think any. Just created a long barrel pistol. As long as a stock wasn't added you can change the uppers around as much as you want and as long as there wasn't a foregrip on the upper

    Edit: Nevermind totally illegal read it backwards the first time
     
  11. NavyLT

    NavyLT Oak Harbor, WA New Member

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    Of course it is. Short barreled rifles do look cool. And without the NFA tax stamp are a Federal felony to assemble or possess.
     
  12. RallySoob

    RallySoob Salem, OR Active Member

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    May want to edit your previous posts... To 'retract' :paranoid:

    Glad we all got it figured out
     
  13. Madwulf

    Madwulf Wenatchee Member

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    As I understand... If you have a lower purchased as a "stripped" unit, the initial document will show it as "multi". What that means is it's up to you how it get's built. All you have to do is follow federal law and do the configuration correctly.
    For the people building thier own ARs at home :
    As a rifle configuration - it has to be a 16" barrel or longer upper to have a lower with a stock.
    As a pistol configuration upper it has to be a shorter barrel and can't have a lower with a stock.
    Anything in combination is subject to Federal Law and Tax. A pistol upper on a rifle lower requires a "SBR" tax stamp, which is quite a few dollars sent to the Gov and red tape wrapped all over you. A Rifle upper on a pistol lower is illegal anyway.
    The simplest thing to do is - don't mix and match parts.
     
  14. Civil

    Civil Oregon Member

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    Really? There is a max barrel length for a pistol?
     
  15. billdeserthills

    billdeserthills Cave Creek, Arizony Well-Known Member

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    Actually any Lower Receiver is currently listed on a form 4473 as "Other" They are no longer listed as Long Gun or Handgun.