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You may want to mention that these can be shot through 45 ACP 1911's and similar guns but require a stronger (22-24 LB recoil spring) to absorb the extra energy. The outer dimensions are identical to 45 ACP. The case is thicker in the wall to handle the pressure. More info on this round can be found on the internet. These would shine in a 45 ACP cylindered Ruger Blackhawk,