Modern Defensive Shotgun?

[CountryGent]

I'm not really up on what is the latest in the world of scatterguns. Our present line up is older technology: pump-actions and SxSs.

Anyone know of a current offering that:

• Is semi-automatic.
• Feeds from a detachable box magazine of at least five (5) cartridges. More is better, of course, but five is fine.
• Said magazines are not crazy expensive and/or unobtanium.
• Is available in 20 or 12-gauge (2¾").
• Is of good manufacture; not some off-brand clunker.
• If it is Title I or NFA doesn't matter, though depending on the configuration, I might be converted to an SBS after all the paperwork is approved.

Thanks much.

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[DB is Here]

Like this?
WTT WA - MKA 1919 Match

 

[Geardo]

Mag fed shotguns are fun toys, not defensive weapons IMO.

Get a Benelli m4, side saddle, few belt mounted shell holders, and lots of training and practice.

 

[HB of CJ]

Saiga 12. An AK47 Russian made 12 and 20 gage shotgun. Detachable box mags. 20 rd. drums. Also consider the "any other firearm" Trench 12 made by Atlantic Firearms. Non NFA. 12 inch barrel. Box mags. Drums. Another AK. Has a rear arm brace and not a butt stock. Lots of accessories and upgraded parts available available for both.

Trench 12.

Atlantic Firearms

 

[CountryGent]

Thanks all for the replies.

MKA 1919 looks very interesting, but I know nothing about them, so will have to do some research. They do appear to hit all the main data points though.

What is the current status of the Saigas? I vaguely recall importation was halted by the past administration, so was concerned about parts, magazines, etc., availability. But if that isn't a concern, those look quite viable.

Parenthetically, I still see papered USAS-12 from time to time, but a quick search indicates prices have gotten a little gonzo. I can't think of any compelling reason to look at them if there are currently produced options.

I should have mentioned it in the OP; I have no interest in anything (scattergun or otherwise) with an arm brace.

Thanks again.

 

[No_Regerts]

930 SPX for semi-auto

Still would take a 590 in a heartbeat.

 

[Joe13]

I still prefer a solid 870 with an extended tube and wood stock.

I see people double tapping too often with a simi-auto to want one and honestly I can work a good slide as fast as I can acquire a new target so I'm sticking with old faithful. (Not to mention ammo type changes are easier)

The 500's and 870's came out with box mags so if capacity is the issue then that might solve your search.

 

[Alexx1401]

930 SPX for semi-auto

Still would take a 590 in a heartbeat.

Those 930's always make me want one, damn nice design. The biggest problem I see with the mag fed in the, well mags. Shells are so big it ends up making the damn mags huge. Where as with the auto like the 930, you can keep feeding more rounds in as used. Watched some video of the one with a drum and it was impressive but they look more like something to mount on a vehicle they get so damn big

 

[Geardo]

The biggest problem I see with the mag fed in the, well mags

Biggest issue is shells deforming due to the pressure.

 

[Nick Burkhardt]

Those scary semi-autos may be considered to be "assault weapons" soon, so better grab them while you can.

 

[Tony617]

I have an 18" SLP and I can fire 3 rounds and see all 3 shell cases in the air. I am not that great at unloading all 7 rounds but three rounds I can do quite nicely. After three rounds the barrel rises a bit so need to concentrate and keep my shots on target.

I have 6 round side-saddle and load from my side-saddle too when I practice.

 

[Alexx1401]

Biggest issue is shells deforming due to the pressure.

Now that I had never heard before. Is this a problem with all of them? Other than watching some videos that made them look fun never actually have shot one of these. The size of the mags always made me think for me the old standard tube feed looked better. Does kind of make sense. Plastic is of course not going to be as robust as brass.

 

[Geardo]

Now that I had never heard before. Is this a problem with all of them? Other than watching some videos that made them look fun never actually have shot one of these. The size of the mags always made me think for me the old standard tube feed looked better. Does kind of make sense. Plastic is of course not going to be as robust as brass.

Have heard it a lot online, also owned a Saiga 12, and it was never as reliable as a good AR.

 

[Member 34319]

Mossberg 930s can be routinely purchased for $400

930 Home Security 12 GA 18.5 7 Round Black Mossberg 85322

If I were to get back into 12g it be with that shotgun.

 

[Member 34319]

I've also been watching this one closely. Looks like a decent magazine fed shotgun. If AK varieties aren't your thing. Rock Island VR80

 

[Stomper]

These are true fighting shotguns: M930 on the far left, M500's to the right.



This M930 holds 7+1+1 for 9 total... that's a LOT of 12ga firepower within 18"

 

[Nick Burkhardt]

This M930 holds 7+1+1
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7+1+1?

 

[Kruel J]

Benelli M4, specifically the M1014. On my VERY short list of guns I WILL own.

BTW, box mags in shotguns suck, generally speaking. YT has lots of examples.

 

[Stomper]

7+1+1?
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Yes... the new nomenclature designation for "Ghost Loading".

 

[Nick Burkhardt]

Yes... the new nomenclature designation for "Ghost Loading".

Ok, I have heard of that before.

No need to mess with magazines. How is the recoil of the 930? Can lighter loads or shorter hulls be used for smaller defenders?