Liberty safes - "backdoor" access code?

[The Heretic]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Firearms/comments/16aw4hc

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[Kruel J]

They do have a master code in case the owner forgets or worse dies and the family doesn't know how to get in. I had to name a "beneficiary" when I bought mine that supposedly is the only person they will give the code to besides myself.

Better to give them the code than have them cut it open? I don't know, not thrilled they give it out to .gov.

 

[JRuby]

Can they do that with mechanical locks as well?

 

[JohnnyMac]

Two rules of life....Don't give out your backdoor access code....and don't drop the soap.

 

[The Heretic]

Can they do that with mechanical locks as well?

I kind of doubt it. For one thing, you can change the combination on a mechanical lock, and I think it would be difficult to have a "backdoor" for a mechanical lock.

 

[Alexx1401]

To me it seems a big nothing them giving it to feds. If they want in and can't get in they would just cut it open. So not having the way in easy they would just trash the safe anyway. Its not like they are going to show up and go "ah shucks, foiled again, guess we will just have to go home".

 

[The Heretic]

To me it seems a big nothing them giving it to feds. If they want in and can't get in they would just cut it open. So not having the way in easy they would just trash the safe anyway. Its not like they are going to show up and go "ah shucks, foiled again, guess we will just have to go home".

I see no reason to make it easy for the Feds.

 

[Koda]

I see no reason to make it easy for the Feds.

Once they have a search warrant they can enter your safe, with or without a combination.

 

[Nick Burkhardt]

Better to give them the code than have them cut it open?

Giving the Feds the code is the same as granting them permission to search and can hurt your ability to fight a bogus warrant.

 

[The Heretic]

Once they have a search warrant they can enter your safe, with or without a combination.

I still see no reason to make it easy for them - especially if they are going to take your guns and probably never give them back.

 

[kmk1012]

Makes me more proud to have an Apple phone and not a Liberty Safe. At least Apple fought them in the past. Doesn't sound like Liberty Safes has their customer's backs, profits above what they claim to be selling-safes that ONLY the buyer can access. I'm certain it's not Liberty as much as it is the maker of their locks though, there's only like 2 maybe 3 lock makers total.

 

[Koda]

I still see no reason to make it easy for them - especially if they are going to take your guns and probably never give them back.

I agree with your sentiment, but your not making it easier for them as they already have a warrant. You are making it harder on you though letting your expensive safe get destroyed.

 

[Diamondback]

They'd probably trash the safe even WITH the code just to sick it to you. Jackboot Sturmtruppen gonna Jackboot Sturmtruppen, after all...

 

[Nick Burkhardt]

However if the basis for the warrant is later proved to be unfounded, then any evidence collected cannot be used against you. If you open the safe for them, you are granting consent.

 

[Koda]

However if the basis for the warrant is later proved to be unfounded, then any evidence collected cannot be used against you. If you open the safe for them, you are granting consent.

True, to clarify I'm not saying open it for them but just that the backdoor combination doesn't matter much. That said, Liberty should be refusing.

 

[Kruel J]

They should absolutely refuse. But think about it, they already have the warrant (or should) so it's either get the code or cut it open. They're not gonna just give up if Liberty says pound sand.

 

[Nick Burkhardt]

They should absolutely refuse. But think about it, they already have the warrant (or should) so it's either get the code or cut it open. They're not gonna just give up if Liberty says pound sand.

Open the safe or your Tannerite dog gets it!

 

[Stomper]

Two rules of life....Don't give out your backdoor access code....and don't drop the soap.

I keep the combo here, you'll have to reach in and grab it….

 

[Alexx1401]

Once they have a search warrant they can enter your safe, with or without a combination.

That is my way of looking at it. I guess some prefer to have the safe trashed so they can "feel better"?
Hey to each his own I guess. I personally would rather they could open the safe and see what they want and the damn thing still works when they leave. I can't for the life of me see the point in enjoying having them trash the safe but, for those who like this idea it is their money. Not like they are ever going to pay for the safe after they chop it open.

 

[kmk1012]

Once a code is known to exist, it will NEVER be secure. How many leaks have happened on gun owners data? Think this will stay a secret? People asked for this, LOL I mean they voted for it.