Ebola is here.

[The Heretic]

Hubris goes before a fall

So - are you saying "this time it's different"?

 

[7SFCW4]

Best info yet: http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/10/21-days/381901/?single_page=true

 

[ted.wen]

Nina Pham said she feels great and can't wait to get home and see her dog, so I guess her endangering all those people irresponsibly is really no big deal. If you open carry a gun, you are threatening the entire public. If you fly with 150 people that are completely unaware that you potentially have/do have Ebola you will get you your own press conferences and make your dog an internet star. What a wonderful world.

Oh, I forgot. Please remember to fear terrorism, but never racially profile Muslims. White people that look like "preppers", yes, Muslims, no. Does anyone still think this isn't intentional? Why does it seem as though folks treating Ebola are sure to go to as many confined areas with scores of people? Airplanes, bowling alleys, cruise ships, subways and taxicabs. I'm sure our troops will bring some back to all 50 states as well.

You got your fact wrong. Nina did not fly. It was the second nurse, Amber I believe, flew to repair her wedding.

We should appreciate the nurses and doctors who are brave enough to help the patient. I am glad to see her back.

As for the other nurse's, it was CDC approved her travel. She checked with CDC multiple times before going on the plane.

I don's see connections of ebola and gun control. Guns are controlled by the shooter, ebola is not. Let's not mix up unrelated issues and make good arguments for gun rights.

 

[Sam Kinard]

You got your fact wrong. Nina did not fly. It was the second nurse, Amber I believe, flew to repair her wedding.

We should appreciate the nurses and doctors who are brave enough to help the patient. I am glad to see her back.

As for the other nurse's, it was CDC approved her travel. She checked with CDC multiple times before going on the plane.

I don's see connections of ebola and gun control. Guns are controlled by the shooter, ebola is not. Let's not mix up unrelated issues and make good arguments for gun rights.

What is your nonsense about? Do you think the name of the nurse matters? Would you correct me if I said it was a 737 instead of a 747? You go ahead and appreciate all the silly BS you want, I will appreciate those of us smart enough to stay away from infectious diseases and those smart enough to keep it away from the rest of us.

Checking in with CDC does not make it OK to shirk your own responsibility and put others at risk because a government agency said so.

Your Lefty tactics will never work on me. The point I made is governmental control, no matter what you look very hard to find. "Let's not mix up unrelated issues and make good arguments for gun rights". What does your nonsense even mean? Good arguments for gun rights? The right was given to us by God and it is required to be recognized by the US government. What are you talking about? Take your collectivist drivel to a Socialist country. At least do your best to form an actual argument and "nurses that save Ebola idiots are nice!" isn't an argument.

By the way, if the government tells me it's OK to drive drunk and fire my sidearm wildly into a peaceful crowd, it doesn't mean that I am no longer responsible for my actions. Care to argue any other semantics, such as the nurses pet dog's name? Your bleeding heart is nothing to be proud of. I guess since we are playing your new game, what is it to "repair" a wedding as you stated above? You are disgusting and your claims that doctors and nurses have no responsibility outside of what someone on a hotline tells them what to do shows how wildly foolish and liberal you are. I'd bet my bottom dollar you're an ISIS apologist.

 

[erudne]

New York Ebola doctor 'LIED to police about his travel': NYPD discovered he rode subway, ate at restaurant and went bowling after cops checked his MetroCard
The doctor currently being treated for Ebola in New York lied to police about travelling around the city for six days before he was quarantined, it has been revealed.
Dr Craig Spencer initially told officers that he had isolated himself in his Harlem apartment after returning from Guinea where he had been treating people for the illness. It was only when cops checked his MetroCard and bank statement that they realised he had been roaming the city for nearly a week, visiting a sandwich shop, taking an Uber cab, and going bowling.
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Lawyer: Maine Nurse Who Treated Ebola Patients In West Africa Won't Observe State's Quarantine October 29, 2014
Hickox's lawyer insisted Tuesday that she was not under quarantine and said she was seeking time to decompress at an undisclosed location in Maine. Steven Hyman of the New York law firm McLaughlin & Stern told the Bangor Daily News that Hickox will not comply with Maine's requirements to remain under quarantine for 21 days.

"She doesn't want to agree to continue to be confined to a residence beyond the two days," Hyman told the Daily news. Aw yes, from the demented mind of a Liberal Leftist:

Hickox's other attorney, New York civil rights lawyer Norman Siegel, called Maine's quarantine "unconstitutional."

"The conditions that the state of Maine is now requiring Kaci to comply with are unconstitutional and illegal and there is no justification for the state of Maine to infringe on her liberty," Siegel explained to the Daily News.

. . .If Hickox were to show Ebola symptoms, then her boyfriend and any others who had contact with her also would be subject to quarantine, Mayhew said.

 

[erudne]

CDC Admits Droplets From A Sneeze Can Spread Ebola
http://nypost.com/2014/10/29/cdc-admits-droplets-from-a-sneeze-could-spread-ebola/

Blood Test For Ebola Doesn't Catch Infection Early
In an ideal world, health care workers returning from West Africa would get a quick blood test to prove they aren't carrying the Ebola virus. A test like that would likely put to rest some of the anxiety surrounding these doctors, nurses and scientists.

Unfortunately, even the best blood test in the world can't do that.

The test uses a technology called PCR, for polymerase chain reaction. It can detect extraordinarily small traces of genetic material from the Ebola virus.

But the catch is, the test is usually used on blood samples. And in the beginning, that's not where the Ebola virus hides.

"The initial sites of replication actually are not in the blood itself — they're mostly in tissues like spleen or liver," says <broken link removed> , a microbiologist at the University of Texas Medical Branch in Galveston.
***

And as soon as a small amount of virus ends up in the blood, PCR will detect it. It can find one or two virus particles in a drop of blood. That concentration is so low, Geisbert says, that an infected person's body fluids pose a minuscule risk to others at that stage. The problem is, that can change pretty quickly.

"As the disease progresses, and people start to get sick," he says, "in that same small drop of blood [there can be] 100 particles — or a thousand particles."


http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2014...nfection-early

 

[U201491]

What angers me is those that say there is nothing to fear with ebola. It is an evil disease that does not belong here. It is the administration that enabled it to come to the US. If obuma is so sure there is no risk, then he should house every health care worker returning in his house with his family. The whitehouse will need disinfecting for all the treason and evil when he leaves anyway. He needs to put himself in the risk arena that he is putting the nation in.
The house and Senate people that go along with no quarantine for those returning should also have to spend time with every one of them.
You would see some real panic changes in quarantine procedures in this country.
Its only since the 60's that quarantines have not been used & enforced. Its when the fungus generation, ie the leftist marxists/communists/socialists gained their foothold here. Quarantine worked for our parents and grandparents era and infectious disease was pretty much eradicated.
Now they bring it all back and all by leftist design. Wake up folks. Wake up.

 

[ted.wen]

What is your nonsense about? Do you think the name of the nurse matters? Would you correct me if I said it was a 737 instead of a 747? You go ahead and appreciate all the silly BS you want, I will appreciate those of us smart enough to stay away from infectious diseases and those smart enough to keep it away from the rest of us.

Checking in with CDC does not make it OK to shirk your own responsibility and put others at risk because a government agency said so.

Your Lefty tactics will never work on me. The point I made is governmental control, no matter what you look very hard to find. "Let's not mix up unrelated issues and make good arguments for gun rights". What does your nonsense even mean? Good arguments for gun rights? The right was given to us by God and it is required to be recognized by the US government. What are you talking about? Take your collectivist drivel to a Socialist country. At least do your best to form an actual argument and "nurses that save Ebola idiots are nice!" isn't an argument.

By the way, if the government tells me it's OK to drive drunk and fire my sidearm wildly into a peaceful crowd, it doesn't mean that I am no longer responsible for my actions. Care to argue any other semantics, such as the nurses pet dog's name? Your bleeding heart is nothing to be proud of. I guess since we are playing your new game, what is it to "repair" a wedding as you stated above? You are disgusting and your claims that doctors and nurses have no responsibility outside of what someone on a hotline tells them what to do shows how wildly foolish and liberal you are. I'd bet my bottom dollar you're an ISIS apologist.

When you directed your anger towards an individual and ridiculed her action, the name matters.

I think you barked under the wrong tree.

Yes we all need to be responsible, but nurses are not doctors, so they don't know everything about an illness, that is why CDC was responsible. If a nurse had to know everything with a disease and then help a patient, we would all suffer. They are responsible of following doctor direction and other health authorities. And they did not choose to get the disease.

When we pick up a gun, that is our choice. We need to know what is safe what is not regardless of the law. I hope you see the difference here.

I don't like government get into our lives, but there are times individual cannot know or do everything. Government has the responsibility of public safety.

If you just want to rant, fine. But if you want talk about what we can do to help control Ebola, we need to solve the problem at the right place.

BTW, the nurse fighting her quarantine in NJ and the doc in NY are ones we should talk individual responsibility about. They chose to work with Ebola and did not or don't want to follow the rules setup.

 

[U201491]

In truth ebola is a risk far beyond 21 days and it can he over 40 days for the incubation period. That should be the quarantine period, or they need to remain overseas in a quarantine area for at least that length of time before being allowed to re-enter the US. No exceptions. More important, travel by anyone around the globe that may carry a disease is insane and idiotic, or it has an evil intent !

 

[erudne]

The Doctor Lied to Police
Lied again at the hospital but was discovered through his mass transit card (apparently that card is chipped and carries data) He now has Ebola

The nurse is a walking Angry Leftist Woman Throwing a Tantrum that simply refuses to follow any rules because she's better than the sheeple.

That News Woman who was quarantined and disregarded all advice, because she wanted soup, she's another Leftist and Obola groupie.

We are witnessing, in real time, the implosion of America wrought by the hands of the r-Type Progressives

 

[erudne]

Huh? Wait A Minute – So You Can Catch Ebola Without Exchange of Body Fluids?
Posted on October 30, 2014 by sundance

Samantha Power

 

[U201491]

Another Evil nearly as bad as Ebola
Deadly Central American mosquito found in San Diego

http://www.wnd.com/2014/10/deadly-central-american-mosquito-found-in-san-diego/

 

[U201491]

CDC: Ebola Spreads Like Flu

http://patriotupdate.com/2014/10/cdc-ebola-spreads-like-flu/

 

[Sstrand]

Erudne
"The nurse is a walking Angry Leftist Woman Throwing a Tantrum that simply refuses to follow any rules because she's better than the sheeple."

You just described the emperor . . .

Sheldon

 

[mkwerx]

If that nurse in main does in fact develop ebola, her bubblegum needs to be prosecuted for wilfully endangering the public, and even if she doesn't, her tantrums and refusal to comply with the home quarantine should earn her a revocation of her nursing license and put on a black list so she can never get one, or even a CNA's or vet tech's license again.

I also notice that it didn't gtake long for the Obama admin to threaten NY and NJ over state quarantines - even though his buddies on the left were agreeing with the state quarantines. I think his big issue was that it was Chris Christies idea, had Cuomo or his buddy Mayor Emannual come up with the idea first, it probably would've been a non issue.

But no, lets let these ebola stricken health care workers just wander around doing whatever the hell they want, potentially exposing hundreds or thousands of people. Voluntary quarantines have proven not to work - because these people, the docs and nurses, have god complexes and they think they can do no wrong. They think they are heros and should get special privileges to endanger the safety of the American people.

I hate to say it but the best way to deal with the ebola outbreak and stop it from spreading may be taking a page out of the movie "Outbreak" - and I'm honestly would not be surprised if, as the disease spreads, some other nation like say, Russia, does that for us. Hell, it may even be another African country that doesn't want ebola within it's borders.

For now - all those health care workers who go over should be placed in a 30 day isolation before they are allowed to leave the infected country - they shouldn't even be allowed in the airport without going through their isolation period. I had to hold my lunch down when Obama was talking about "science and best practices" dictating response. Best practices would be to prevent any chance of these jackwagons exposing people here in the states - not letting them wander around on their own volition. And the CDC's handling so far has been a joke - so no, I don't think the CDC should be the agency saying "sure, go ahead and travel" - their "science and best practices" seems to be a moving target. I don't trust them to not screw up again. We should've stopped all travel into the US by people from the hotzone months ago, and these health care workers who are bent on saving the world should understand that you're not just going to come and go as you please - you go, expect to be gone an extra month. Don't like it, don't go.

 

[erudne]

IT'S NOT AIRBORNE, JUST THE DROPLETS FILLED WITH VIRUS ARE AIRBORNE....

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ps IF IT'S NOT WATER BORN HOW WOULD ONE DESCRIBE 'DROPLETS'...'DRYLETS'

 

[U201491]

If that nurse in main does in fact develop ebola, her bubblegum needs to be prosecuted for wilfully endangering the public, and even if she doesn't, her tantrums and refusal to comply with the home quarantine should earn her a revocation of her nursing license and put on a black list so she can never get one, or even a CNA's or vet tech's license again.

I also notice that it didn't gtake long for the Obama admin to threaten NY and NJ over state quarantines - even though his buddies on the left were agreeing with the state quarantines. I think his big issue was that it was Chris Christies idea, had Cuomo or his buddy Mayor Emannual come up with the idea first, it probably would've been a non issue.

But no, lets let these ebola stricken health care workers just wander around doing whatever the hell they want, potentially exposing hundreds or thousands of people. Voluntary quarantines have proven not to work - because these people, the docs and nurses, have god complexes and they think they can do no wrong. They think they are heros and should get special privileges to endanger the safety of the American people.

I hate to say it but the best way to deal with the ebola outbreak and stop it from spreading may be taking a page out of the movie "Outbreak" - and I'm honestly would not be surprised if, as the disease spreads, some other nation like say, Russia, does that for us. Hell, it may even be another African country that doesn't want ebola within it's borders.

For now - all those health care workers who go over should be placed in a 30 day isolation before they are allowed to leave the infected country - they shouldn't even be allowed in the airport without going through their isolation period. I had to hold my lunch down when Obama was talking about "science and best practices" dictating response. Best practices would be to prevent any chance of these jackwagons exposing people here in the states - not letting them wander around on their own volition. And the CDC's handling so far has been a joke - so no, I don't think the CDC should be the agency saying "sure, go ahead and travel" - their "science and best practices" seems to be a moving target. I don't trust them to not screw up again. We should've stopped all travel into the US by people from the hotzone months ago, and these health care workers who are bent on saving the world should understand that you're not just going to come and go as you please - you go, expect to be gone an extra month. Don't like it, don't go.

The Quarantine should be a minimum of 42 days. Bare minimum. That has been the incubation time in some cases.
And are the people going to continue to allow Obumma to release this virus on the country?????????????
That is a bigger question. He has to be stopped.

 

[Cascadian Appalachian]

Only the liberals think all is just fine and cool with having a horrific disease here now.
What a crock, but typical of America hating loonies.

Its not over and Quarantine is necessary until it is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Travel bans and restrictions to and from regions that have it are also needed !!!!!!!!!!
Like it or leave it still has to happen. Triple !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE

Ok Taku I admit,
I'm thinking your just joking at this point, but I'm not completely sure?
I tend to take things literally, so forgive me if your just playing the alarmist for a few harmless laughs.

For me, the whole Ebola response is entirely frustrating and I blame it all on the media, who would rather scare you, get clicks, and rack up the dollars, than report the truth.
One thing I still have not seen in all of this, is a quote from a respected epidemiologist saying that Ebola could become a real problem in America.... because it can't, its too hard to catch.

 

[U201491]

Ok Taku I admit,
I'm thinking your just joking at this point, but I'm not completely sure?
I tend to take things literally, so forgive me if your just playing the alarmist for a few harmless laughs.
For me, the whole Ebola response is entirely frustrating and I blame it all on the media, who would rather scare you, get clicks, and rack up the dollars, than report the truth.
One thing I still have not seen in all of this, is a quote from a respected epidemiologist saying that Ebola could become a real problem in America.... because it can't, its too hard to catch.

I seldom joke about serious matters. You may or may not have relatives in the locations where these people come back to, but we do. No I take this damned serious. So do a good majority in this country.

 

[erudne]

CDC Deletes Ebola Page On How You Can Catch Disease from Coughing, Sneezing
Posted on October 31, 2014 by stella
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