E-Form stamps, physical copies, two questions

[CamoDeafie]

Just curious, this applies to all the E-Forms stamps and such. Those who have gotten approvals for any of their NFA items, did the BATFE send physical copies of the stamp/registration approvals?

Second question; those who have gotten approvals for their tax-exempt (pistol brace, or LEO/Agency); have anyone gotten a physical copy in addition to the .PDF file ?

I've printed mine out just in case, and as a way to record-keep but wondering. I've read that for tax paid stamps; it could go either way?

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[solv3nt]

My Silencer Shop E-Form 4 was digital only. My shop printed me a copy, but honestly, I'm there's no reason if you carry the digital copy.

I'm willing to bet that any other E-file will be digital only.

 

[Member 34319]

If your worried just have a picture of it on your phone.

 

[solv3nt]

If your worried just have a picture of it on your phone.

Or the pdf?

 

[Member 34319]

Or the pdf?

That works too. Whatever makes you feel better. I recently checked my phone and realized I'm missing about half of them on there. I need to make time to get the rest in there.

 

[CamoDeafie]

There is that annoying ORS regulation, 166.272

ORS 166.272 – Unlawful possession of machine guns, certain short-barreled firearms & firearms silencers

A person commits the crime of unlawful possession of a machine gun, short-barreled rifle, short-barreled shotgun or firearms silencer if the person…

oregon.public.law

"(1)A person commits the crime of unlawful possession of a machine gun, short-barreled rifle, short-barreled shotgun or firearms silencer if the person knowingly possesses any machine gun, short-barreled rifle, short-barreled shotgun or firearms silencer.
(2)Unlawful possession of a machine gun, short-barreled rifle, short-barreled shotgun or firearms silencer is a Class B felony.
(3)A peace officer may not arrest or charge a person for violating subsection (1) of this section if the person has in the person's immediate possession documentation showing that the machine gun, short-barreled rifle, short-barreled shotgun or firearms silencer is registered as required under federal law.
(4)It is an affirmative defense to a charge of violating subsection (1) of this section that the machine gun, short-barreled rifle, short-barreled shotgun or firearms silencer was registered as required under federal law. [1989 c.839 §13a; 1997 c.749 §8; 1997 c.798 §1]"

Now it could be argued that just having the .pdf saved to the phone could satisfy the documentation requirement but some officers may be anal-retentive and require paper documentation

 

[erslll]

My experience is that you will not get a physical copy. Print one out and/or have a copy of the PDF.

 

[RX-79G]

Technically, there is no stamp. That would be the thing you would have to pay for, but didn't.

 

[Member 53328]

My suppressors included a physical form/stamp.

My form 1s were just emailed to me. (More recent)

 

[saxon]

remember kids if you keep a copy on your phone, that gives Johnny law the Permit to search your phone should the need arise.

just saying

 

[Stomper]

I have an "old school" physical tax stamp for an SBR. I made several photocopies of the original (which is kept in a safe) and keep a photocopy with me while "in the field" with the SBR. This is legally sufficient to meet "documentation" in the unlikely event of an LEO interaction.

 

[CamoDeafie]

remember kids if you keep a copy on your phone, that gives Johnny law the Permit to search your phone should the need arise.

just saying

The more reason to just print it out.

 

[TTSX]

I don't know why you wouldn't print it out. You can't corrupt the hard copy's data. I am a firm, firm believer in physical copies of any important document

 

[Hueco]

If your worried just have a picture of it on your phone.

Negative Batman.

If a cop ever asks to see something on my phone, the reply is: get a warrant.

Once you unlock the device and hand it over, it's theirs. For anything.

 

[Member 34319]

There is that annoying ORS regulation, 166.272

ORS 166.272 – Unlawful possession of machine guns, certain short-barreled firearms & firearms silencers

A person commits the crime of unlawful possession of a machine gun, short-barreled rifle, short-barreled shotgun or firearms silencer if the person…

oregon.public.law

"(1)A person commits the crime of unlawful possession of a machine gun, short-barreled rifle, short-barreled shotgun or firearms silencer if the person knowingly possesses any machine gun, short-barreled rifle, short-barreled shotgun or firearms silencer.
(2)Unlawful possession of a machine gun, short-barreled rifle, short-barreled shotgun or firearms silencer is a Class B felony.
(3)A peace officer may not arrest or charge a person for violating subsection (1) of this section if the person has in the person's immediate possession documentation showing that the machine gun, short-barreled rifle, short-barreled shotgun or firearms silencer is registered as required under federal law.
(4)It is an affirmative defense to a charge of violating subsection (1) of this section that the machine gun, short-barreled rifle, short-barreled shotgun or firearms silencer was registered as required under federal law. [1989 c.839 §13a; 1997 c.749 §8; 1997 c.798 §1]"

Now it could be argued that just having the .pdf saved to the phone could satisfy the documentation requirement but some officers may be anal-retentive and require paper documentation

I always figured if an ATF agent were to approach me, they would likely know of all my stuff anyways, because it is registered. Otherwise, local law enforcement can pound sand if they asked me.

Negative Batman.

If a cop ever asks to see something on my phone, the reply is: get a warrant.

Once you unlock the device and hand it over, it's theirs. For anything.

Damn that's scary.

 

[Aero Denezol]

I have never rec'd a physical copy of a tax stamp, all of mine have been digital. I print a copy of each and put them in separate envelopes which go in a file in the safe. I bring the envelope with me to the range as needed.

FWIW I've never had to produce proof for anyone. I had one guy tell me my gun was "illegal" to which I told him it was a registered SBR. He was very confused by this. He was not a LEO, just one of those nosey types who likes to walk the firing line and judge other people's toys.