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hi my name is micky thompson i am charlie's son i am just letting all you know that my dad is trying to get an ad on this site as we speak he is very willing to help anybody with what you need and to let you know he is also the only west coast distributer of rifle rods and hand gun hangers to make your safe hold more you can look at them at storemoreguns.com thanks again you can reach him at 503-706-7347