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There really is not a better name that I have heard. "Assault Rifle" is it's own thing with an existing definition. "Assault Weapon" is a moving legal target that includes way more than just MSRs, not to mention all the political baggage it has. You could just list out all the platforms that MSR encompasses like "AR, AK, HK-whatevers. . ." but that is way more cumbersome than just "MSR". MSR is a good catch-all term to cover a magazine fed semi auto with modern ergonomics and a somewhat modular design paradigm. It differentiates it from other platforms that have adopted more modern ergonomic and design ideas (like a good number of shotguns and bolt actions have) and most people can picture exactly what the term means. The term serves a useful purpose quite well I think.Yes, we know. It just as ridiculous a name if not moreso than assault rifle.
We can call it what we want if they can. Plus, MSR is more accurate since nearly 100% are used for sport/activity.Yes, we know. It just as ridiculous a name if not moreso than assault rifle.
Well, not in my case.Funny thing, once one starts with ARs for purely recreational purposes, the bug sets in and before one knows it, there's a bunch of ARs in the safe.
MSR=Modern Sporting Rifle
Yes, we know. It just as ridiculous a name if not moreso than assault rifle.
We can call it what want if they can. Plus, MSR is more accurate since nearly 100% are used for sport/activity.
It wouldn't matter to me if the powers that be, had useful and honest discussions with the term, but they don't. They misuse it like they misuse the word, compromise.
Um. "Semiautomatic rifle" works just as well....There really is not a better name that I have heard. "Assault Rifle" is it's own thing with an existing definition. "Assault Weapon" is a moving legal target that includes way more than just MSRs, not to mention all the political baggage it has. You could just list out all the platforms that MSR encompasses like "AR, AK, HK-whatevers. . ." but that is way more cumbersome than just "MSR". MSR is a good catch-all term to cover a magazine fed semi auto with modern ergonomics and a somewhat modular design paradigm. It differentiates it from other platforms that have adopted more modern ergonomic and design ideas (like a good number of shotguns and bolt actions have) and most people can picture exactly what the term means. The term serves a useful purpose quite well I think.
I have a few semi-autos that are not MSRs. Seems less useful to lump them all in together.Um. "Semiautomatic rifle" works just as well....
Its not like we're calling Glocks/similar handgubs "modular plastic framed pistols"
Every "features" the Anti2a wants to ban, can be found on every semiauto rifle line, whether aftermarket or not. many can be added to bolt actions, levers, pumps as well.I have a few semi-autos that are not MSRs. Seems less useful to lump them all in together.
And Glocks et. al. do have a colloquial term; "Plastic Fantastic" or "Tupperware" depending on how much you like them
But overall I think the distinction between pistols is less useful. They are all still basically the same platform when looks at for broad, general features. There is not a whole lot all that different between a 1911 and any random Glock until you get into details. The over-all form factor, ergonomics and function are pretty much the same.
Not so for a Remington 740 and an AR-10. There are quite a bit of differences both at the superficial and detail levels, and while they can server similar applications it is useful to differentiate between them in a general sense.
As a final thought we do differentiate between revolvers and pistols, I think that is a more apt comparison for MSRs vs. other types of long arms.
Yeah, which is why the term "Assault Weapon" is useless; it has no meaning past the politics and can cover any firearm the politicians want at any moment. I find "MSR" is a useful term outside of its political connotations. It has a utility similar to "Assault Rifle" when you want to discuss a certain broad class of weapon as it relates to military paradigms. When someone says "MSR" there is a distinct class of firearm that comes to mind, with a distinct set of characteristics. Most people who are familiar with the topic will know exactly what those features are and can probably rattle off a few specific examples.Every "features" the Anti2a wants to ban, can be found on every semiauto rifle line, whether aftermarket or not. many can be added to bolt actions, levers, pumps as well.
Germane to your post, and well worth watching….I would like to think that bans , restrictions and the like would be reason enough for people to understand that if it can be done to one type of firearm....it can be done to any type of firearm.
I also think that any ban or restriction made for a rush of sales before said ban or restriction took place.
In addition to the above...I have long thought that firearm bans , restrictions and the like only affect those who abide by the law.
In other words....those people who ain't the problem.
Criminals break laws....its what they do...a ban or restriction ain't going to stop a criminal from committing a crime...
Nor is it going to stop him from using a banned or restricted item.
A murder is a murder...the victim is no less dead if he was murdered by someone using a flintlock or the latest AR15 variant and a 100 round drum magazine.
It ain't the firearm that is the problem here....it is the murderer that is the problem.
Andy
Mentally Sloppy Retard…What is "msr"? Do youmean modular sniper rifle?
There's also Mountain Safety Research brand MSRYeah, which is why the term "Assault Weapon" is useless; it has no meaning past the politics and can cover any firearm the politicians want at any moment. I find "MSR" is a useful term outside of its political connotations. It has a utility similar to "Assault Rifle" when you want to discuss a certain broad class of weapon as it relates to military paradigms. When someone says "MSR" there is a distinct class of firearm that comes to mind, with a distinct set of characteristics. Most people who are familiar with the topic will know exactly what those features are and can probably rattle off a few specific examples.
Muted snowflake response? Ie what happens when people should be outraged by a crime but instead think "we'll just pretend that one didn't happen". Only applicable to specific classes/affiliations of human beings.Mentally Sloppy Retard…
No offense to retarrrrrrds.
It's a self-harming mental disorder…. but we digress from the thread topic.Muted snowflake response? Ie what happens when people should be outraged by a crime but instead think "we'll just pretend that one didn't happen". Only applicable to specific classes/affiliations of human beings.
Totally off topic and all, but this has always been a very slight pet peeve of mine, since by strict historical definition a revolver is a type of pistol, but by modern usage most people make the distinction that it's not. Language does change over time.As a final thought we do differentiate between revolvers and pistols
If imports were blocked how did say AKs & SKSs get over here post ban?After the ban, we were left with pretty much only domestic designs and the AR emerged as the dominant pattern.
The SKS with fixed magazines were not blocked from import; the ones with removable, IIRC, were. The AKs were a weird mix; Some pre-ban. Some came in as single-stack magazines and converted, usually craptastically, to standard double-stack. Eventually domestic production started. I'd have to defer to the AK fans for the full story though.If imports were blocked how did say AKs & SKSs get over here post ban?