oregon man confronting bear accidentally kills brother fatally shoots himself

[EHJ]

Bears don't "Hibernate" hibernate here. Where does your buddy live?

Bears sleep more in the winter, but not all day

Since you asked My wife and I were walking in the woods the other day and happened upon what appeared to be some very fresh bear scat. I thought bears went to sleep for the winter. What's up? ' Bi...

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The Yaak Valley in Montana.

 

[EUGENE the REALTOR]

Bears don't "Hibernate" hibernate here. Where does your buddy live?

Bears sleep more in the winter, but not all day

Since you asked My wife and I were walking in the woods the other day and happened upon what appeared to be some very fresh bear scat. I thought bears went to sleep for the winter. What's up? ' Bi...

www.mailtribune.com

I knew that just from taking my kid to the zoo.

 

[EHJ]

Do Bears Really Sleep All Winter?

Response from Sean Farley, Research Biologist and Bear Specialist, ADF&G Question from A. Chapman, Anchorage Q) Do bears really sleep all winter? Do they need snow to build a den? Also, how is their behavior affected when its a warmer than usual winter? A) Bears hibernate during winter, but...

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[po18guy]

FTFY.

It's known as "Going Baldwin"

 

[OldBroad44]

My first thought, too. Never met a black bear in So. Oregon (and I've run across several on my property) that couldn't be scared off by some hand clapping and loud yells. And that's the stubborn ones. Usually they take off when they see a human. No need for firearms. I'd bet money something else happened here.

I did have a bear in my back yard in Oregon that was after my duck flock and was undeterred in approaching by my shouting and spotlighting it. It did drop the attack and run when I put a shot in the ground next to it with my 686 snubby. Now that we can't hunt bears or cougars with dogs or baits -- the only efficient methods, they aren't regularly hunted over, don't learn from their mommas to avoid people, and are getting bolder and more dangerous.

I find the story about shooting the brother accidentally while loading the gun unlikely. I'd guess an argument and transient rage. Then remorse and/or not wanting to deal with arrest, prison, repudiation by others, etc.

 

[po18guy]

I like how the headline steers the story - sets the narrative. What do we actually know?
Two men shot. Gun found near one of them.

 

[JustSomeGuy]

I like how the headline steers the story - sets the narrative. What do we actually know?
Two men shot. Gun found near one of them.

And bear with GSR on it's paws outside laughing and wondering if anyone will ever know the truth.

 

[po18guy]

And bear with GSR on it's paws outside laughing and wondering if anyone will ever know the truth.

 

[po18guy]

"Officer, it was mistaken identity, I tell ya'!"

 

[Mikej]

"Officer, it was mistaken identity, I tell ya'!"

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I used to watch that.

 

[DunRanull]

I like how the headline steers the story - sets the narrative. What do we actually know?
Two men shot. Gun found near one of them.

Frankly, we only know the bare facts...

 

[trekkerpaul]

Sounds fishy. Maybe that's what the bear was after.

 

[2ndtimer]

Sounds like "Oregon man" trying to compete with Florida man.

 

[OldBroad44]

Sounds like "Oregon man" trying to compete with Florida man.

"Oregon Man" will never be able to compete with "Florida Man" . Florida has "sunshine laws" with respect to government activity. Everything is open to public scrutiny. Any reporter can call police department and get copies of crime reports. The real deal, not special sanitized redacted PR versions. And where law breakers have done something particularly weird or stupid, they can expect to have that weirdness or stupidity broadcasted all over for everyone's amusement. Also, Oregon has no alligators.

 

[Xaevian]

Also, Oregon has no alligators.

Yet!

 

[Flopsweat]

Yet!

The probability is never zero.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

While not Oregon ....
in 2022...Pierce County Washington.....Police found a 7 foot alligator living in a shipping container on a man's property....
Andy

 

[CountryGent]

My first thought, too. Never met a black bear in So. Oregon (and I've run across several on my property) that couldn't be scared off by some hand clapping and loud yells. And that's the stubborn ones. Usually they take off when they see a human. No need for firearms. I'd bet money something else happened here.

^ Agreed. I've encountered many a black bear, including on my own property. Every run in has been pretty resolved by me going in one direction and the furry visitor heading in the opposite.

And since this story is out of Grants Poop, er, Pass, I am so not buying the bear story. Not for a second.

 

[Tlock]

^ Agreed. I've encountered many a black bear, including on my own property. Every run in has been pretty resolved by me going in one direction and the furry visitor heading in the opposite.

And since this story is out of Grants Poop, er, Pass, I am so not buying the bear story. Not for a second.

All my years in the woods and dealing with work situations I've had to defend myself twice with deadly force against bears. Your right all the other encounters they are trying to get the hell away from you

 

[OldBroad44]

All my years in the woods and dealing with work situations I've had to defend myself twice with deadly force against bears. Your right all the other encounters they are trying to get the hell away from you

I've heard/read about three exceptions. Black bears that have become familiar with people, such as being fed by them or eating human garbage, which allows bears to associate human scent with food, or eating dog or cat food from dishes on people's porches. Second is getting between mother bear and her cubs. Third is if you surprise a bear from inside its attack distance.

Is this right @Tlock ?

Any idea of what a black bear's attack distance is? (When I'm in woods I'm very quiet, since seeing and hearing wildlife is part of the point.)