In search of ffl capable of serializing homemade firearms

[truggudden]

the past few months have been interesting. i have contacted every buisness i can think of regarding the new legislation coming out on july 13th making homemade firearms and unfinished receivers essentially illegal in the state of oregon.

anyone here know outright of any ffl capable or willing to take in a and serialize a homemade firearm?

i would love to keep my projects legal?

thanks ahead of time

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[arakboss]

Try talking @TonyLeeFrost into doing it. He has amazing engraving skills and appropriate FFL qualifications.

 

[Alexx1401]

There was a thread on this just a bit ago with someone showing some examples of an FFL doing this? Can't remember now where it was. Someone here can I hope find it???

 

[Koda]

ADL Tactical in Springfield Oregon will do it super easy. Order and pay for the service on their website, print out the invoice and ship it with your receivers. They will serialize them and ship them back to you direct.

Serialization of 80% Lower Receivers Oregon - 80% Lowers and More

Serialization Service of 80% Lower Receivers for Oregon Residents who currently possess an 80 Percent Lower or Unserialized Receiver.

80lowers.com

 

[truggudden]

Try talking @TonyLeeFrost into doing it. He has amazing engraving skills and appropriate FFL qualifications.

That was great advice. I did send my bullpup lower in to get it serialized.

Just fyi to anyone doing this the receiver needs to have some form of metal plate that is easily accessible and read where the ffl can engrave it in permanently.

I realize some people may get rubbed the wrong way but I personal would rather have my rifles legal than not.

Just a preference.

Thanks again @arakboss for the help finding this service.

 

[Kcee]

Here's a video on the subject:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOX3aC0p3zw

 

[Koda]

Here's a video on the subject:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOX3aC0p3zw

the one part hes incorrect on is you dont have to do a background check to get your 80% frame serialized by an FFL. It just has to be done by an FFL.
HB2005 Section 4.(2)(e).

8 minutes 20 seconds into the video.

 

[Dillon1000]

R&J firearms in McMinnville has set up a Laser Engraver to do just that.
They will do the work but you still have to Register The lower.

 

[PiratePast40]

the one part hes incorrect on is you dont have to do a background check to get your 80% frame serialized by an FFL. It just has to be done by an FFL.
HB2005 Section 4.(2)(e).

8 minutes 20 seconds into the video.

Take a look at what happens after September 1st.

 

[Koda]

Take a look at what happens after September 1st.

Yes, the unserialized possession becomes illegal after that. Basically people have until Sept 1st to get their ghost guns serialized.

 

[Yarome]

the one part hes incorrect on is you dont have to do a background check to get your 80% frame serialized by an FFL. It just has to be done by an FFL.
HB2005 Section 4.(2)(e).

8 minutes 20 seconds into the video.

Actually... that and the other part he got wrong was the July 13th date. That was the enactment date in 2023... and don't have to have them serialized until Sept 1, 2024.

Certainly not one of his better vid's. Wrong on 3 major points.

I sent him an email, but he still hasn't gone back to make any correction to the misinformation. Not cool.

 

[Yarome]

R&J firearms in McMinnville has set up a Laser Engraver to do just that.
They will do the work but you still have to Register The lower.

I certainly wouldn't take mine to them then. It's a gunsmithing service, no transfer is taking place and no BGC or ID is required. Well... their store policy might require ID for gunsmithing services, but no law requires it.

 

[PiratePast40]

Yes, the unserialized possession becomes illegal after that. Basically people have until Sept 1st to get their ghost guns serialized.

If you forgot and take it in to get it serialized after Sept 1st. you need a permit to get it back.

 

[Yarome]

If you forgot and take it in to get it serialized after Sept 1st. you need a permit to get it back.

Hu?? Was the stay on M114 overturned or you're just betting it will be by then?

 

[Dillon1000]

I certainly wouldn't take mine to them then. It's a gunsmithing service, no transfer is taking place and no BGC or ID is required. Well... their store policy might require ID for gunsmithing services, but no law requires it.

They are just performing a service, you tell them the name, address, and number
you want on the lower. It's up to you what you do with it after that. The only thing is they want you there when they do it. No mistakes.

 

[Yarome]

They are just performing a service, you tell them the name, address, and number
you want on the lower. It's up to you what you do with it after that. The only thing is they want you there when they do it. No mistakes.

Yeah. It's simply classed by the alphabet as a "customization".
That sounds more like an NFA engraving... not 114 compliant serialization that only requires a SN. No name or address is required and the number is generated/issued by the FFL according to the alphabet guidelines.

....but you still have to Register The lower.

That made it sound like they were requiring a 4473. My bad.

 

[Dillon1000]

What is the matter with you guys?
Look at any Receiver that is store bought and you will see the name of the company that made it, the city and state and a Serial number. That makes it
legal. It's on every damn gun built. If you are a bad guy, then fine do what you want. But if you want to stay within the law and not have trouble down the road
it's not a big deal. If you don't want to register it, then don't. But at least make it
somewhat legal. None of us are getting off this rock alive, when we go some
one is going to end up with it. If there is a serial number on it, they can sell it
and can register it then.

 

[Koda]

What is the matter with you guys?
Look at any Receiver that is store bought and you will see the name of the company that made it, the city and state and a Serial number. That makes it
legal. It's on every damn gun built. If you are a bad guy, then fine do what you want. But if you want to stay within the law and not have trouble down the road
it's not a big deal. If you don't want to register it, then don't. But at least make it
somewhat legal. None of us are getting off this rock alive, when we go some
one is going to end up with it. If there is a serial number on it, they can sell it
and can register it then.

Thats for gun manufacturers. What does that have to do with home built firearms?
How do you register a gun?

 

[aholley777]

I just chose not to bend over.

 

[Mark W.]

So I have not payed any attention to this so far as I have no home made firearms but I do have factory made firearms with no serial numbers. Are those required to be defaced? With a non factory serial number?