Other State Guns kept in your car can be considered as carrying in public, MN court rules (and it was a BB gun)

[The Heretic]

Guns kept in your car can be considered as carrying in public, MN court rules

Keeping a gun in your car while on a Minnesota roadway can be considered being in a public place, according to a recent state Court of Appeals ruling.

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[ilikegunspdx]

Weird. Why would they even charge the guy if he had a BB gun in his car? Was he doing some other criminal activity and this was an ad-on charge or something?

 

[TTSX]

I bet he was un white and they gots ta get im. Or something. IDK, didn't click.

 

[Knobgoblin]

Weird. Why would they even charge the guy if he had a BB gun in his car? Was he doing some other criminal activity and this was an ad-on charge or something?

I would postulate that window tint/ tag light/incomplete stop /lane changes initiated the stop.

" hi , I just pulled you over to check on you. Are you alright? "

 

[CamoDeafie]

One Court case in Oregon pretty much declared that privately owned vehicles on public roads are "public places", and thus "no expectation of privacy" (there is that ORS section describing handguns in vehicles , and Pirtland and other cities does have city laws relating to "public" carry/transport of loaded firearms) so.. technically police and Sheriffs can (and ought to) use that court case as "probable cause" to arrest and charge certain populations for doing illegal things "in public places"

 

[ilikegunspdx]

One Court case in Oregon pretty much declared that privately owned vehicles on public roads are "public places", and thus "no expectation of privacy" (there is that ORS section describing handguns in vehicles , and Pirtland and other cities does have city laws relating to "public" carry/transport of loaded firearms) so.. technically police and Sheriffs can (and ought to) use that court case as "probable cause" to arrest and charge certain populations for doing illegal things "in public places"

What police? I do see sheriffs though pretty often when I go to clackamas county.

 

[CamoDeafie]

What police? I do see sheriffs though pretty often when I go to clackamas county.

Saw several when we drove through Multnomah area and others on way to Willamette National Cemetary last week or so to visit my father's internment plot

 

[nammac]

So your private vehicle is considered a public place when it is on a public road in Minnesota…. Does that mean you have to share it with homeless and crackheads????

What an asinine statement and decision. This is what happens when the party of socialism is allowed to rule in any locale for too long, you lose the balance of logic and judgement.

 

[CamoDeafie]

So your private vehicle is considered a public place when it is on a public road in Minnesota…. Does that mean you have to share it with homeless and crackheads????

What an asinine statement and decision. This is what happens when the party of socialism is allowed to rule in any locale for too long, you lose the balance of logic and judgement.

State v. Ward

State v. Ward

law.justia.com

This was decided in Multnomah (of course), in 2008. Minnesota just followed Multnomah's lead

 

[ilikegunspdx]

So your private vehicle is considered a public place when it is on a public road in Minnesota…. Does that mean you have to share it with homeless and crackheads????

What an asinine statement and decision. This is what happens when the party of socialism is allowed to rule in any locale for too long, you lose the balance of logic and judgement.

Definitely don't buy a vehicle with a rooftop tent. When you go to the grocery store you might come out and find that squatters have moved in and then you can't move your car!

 

[CamoDeafie]

Definitely don't buy a vehicle with a rooftop tent. When you go to the grocery store you might have squatters move in and then you can't move your car!

Or a RV, or camper trailer

 

[TTSX]

Definitely don't buy a vehicle with a rooftop tent. When you go to the grocery store you might come out and find that squatters have moved in and then you can't move your car!

What squatters? I didn't see any squatters, officer.

 

[nammac]

State v. Ward

State v. Ward

law.justia.com

This was decided in Multnomah (of course), in 2008. Minnesota just followed Multnomah's lead

One more reason to stay the he!! out of Portland and Multnomah County. Keep my wallet out of there too.

 

[Knobgoblin]

What squatters? I didn't see any squatters, officer.

 

[The Heretic]

Weird. Why would they even charge the guy if he had a BB gun in his car? Was he doing some other criminal activity and this was an ad-on charge or something?

He was charged with attempting to steal a catalytic converter - so yeah. But according to the MN law, a BB gun is a firearm.

 

[JRMadrid]

...and your kids aren't yours, they are the State's responsibility to raise.

....
Sound familiar? It's all linked. You'll own no property and be happy for it. We will provide all you need and are required to survive.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

He was charged with attempting to steal a catalytic converter - so yeah. But according to the MN law, a BB gun is a firearm.

Makes sense now. Throw everything in the book at the thriving scum.

 

[Alexx1401]

Weird. Why would they even charge the guy if he had a BB gun in his car? Was he doing some other criminal activity and this was an ad-on charge or something?

BB guns are included under the Minnesota statute that prohibits carrying rifles or shotguns in public. To have a BB gun in a public setting, it needs to be unloaded and kept in a gun case. However, there are exceptions for people with pistol permits or under certain circumstances, like bringing the weapon home after a purchase or taking it in for repairs.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

BB guns are included under the Minnesota statute that prohibits carrying rifles or shotguns in public. To have a BB gun in a public setting, it needs to be unloaded and kept in a gun case. However, there are exceptions for people with pistol permits or under certain circumstances, like bringing the weapon home after a purchase or taking it in for repairs.

He was busted for stealing cat converters.

 

[Alexx1401]

He was busted for stealing cat converters.

According to the criminal complaint, Kyaw Be Bee was arrested after being suspected in a catalytic converter theft back in May 2022.


While Ramsey County deputies searched his car, they found a BB gun under the driver's seat. Bee was charged with illegally carrying a BB gun in a public place.