What make of rifle is this?

[Denwhit]

I know it's a low wall but can not figure out what company made it. Winchester, Browning, Wickliffe, etc. ? The little spur that goes under the pistol grip makes it different than anything I can trace. The only wording/numbering is a serial number. It has a 26.5" bull barrel and a gun smith put their mold in the chamber and he came out with .219 Donaldson Wasp. It's certainly center pin firing pin, and .224" diameter barrel. Super light trigger pull about 2-3oz, I'd guess. I'm not 100% convinced he got that right but that is all I have to go on for now. The original owner is deceased. Any help would be appreciated.

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[IronMonster]

Cant help identify it, But it sure is purdy

 

[OFADAN]

I'm surmising it is a Winchester 1885 Falling Block action. It's not a Browning as they only made about 25,000 roughly. However Winchester produced more than 120,000 up to 1920. Yours is at 121,000 so it was manufactured near to the end of this models run.

It is very common for people to customize then for various and sundry purposes. It was almost like the AR in its day for mods and tinkering. It appears to be set up as a schuetzen rifle for competition although that cartridge was the darling of benchrest shooters soon after WW2.

Take it to Joe at the Gun Works in Springfield and he will tell you everything you want to know about it!!!

 

[Denwhit]

I'm surmising it is a Winchester 1885 Falling Block action. It's not a Browning as they only made about 25,000 roughly. However Winchester produced more than 120,000 up to 1920. Yours is at 121,000 so it was manufactured near to the end of this models run.

It is very common for people to customize then for various and sundry purposes. It was almost like the AR in its day for mods and tinkering. It appears to be set up as a schuetzen rifle for competition although that cartridge was the darling of benchrest shooters soon after WW2.

Take it to Joe at the Gun Works in Springfield and he will tell you everything you want to know about it!!!

Thanks for that. I'm wondering if Joe of Gun Works has seen these pictures? I live in Salem but the next time I drive to Eugene, I'll certainly take the gun to him.

 

[Pgybabz]

I too would like to ask for help in identifying this rifle that was given to me by my brother in-law who no longer wants it. I cannot find any markings on the body of the rifle except what I think is the serial number. Through my internet search, link below, it seems to resemble a Remington Model 1917 Sporterized 30-06 model? But I see no markings on the rifle to confirm the caliber. There is no safety as compared to the web link I found.
Ref: https://www.northwestfirearms.com/t...rized-usmc-bolt-markings.353127/#post-2803848
What is the best way to determine the proper caliber, safely?

 

[homeuser6]

identifying this rifle

sporterized type 38 arisaka
best way to determine the proper caliber
chamber cast

 

[gmerkt]

I'm surmising it is a Winchester 1885 Falling Block action. It's not a Browning as they only made about 25,000 roughly. However Winchester produced more than 120,000 up to 1920. Yours is at 121,000 so it was manufactured near to the end of this models run.

Good call on seeing that serial number. I thought, "How did he know the serial number, it wasn't in the text." I had to go back and look at the pictures again, closely.

The .219 Donaldson gives some indication of when it might've been made. You don't see many people shooting them these days. The .222 Remington put it out of business, which in turn itself has been mostly buried by time.

 

[gmerkt]

I see no markings on the rifle to confirm the caliber.

The long barrel shown in the picture suggests an original barrel. Which is likely 6.5mm Japanese. A quick check, how big is the bore at the muzzle? Is it smaller than a .30-06? Then it's probably 6.5mm. If you want to confirm, you can do a crude chamber casting with molten candle wax. Plug the barrel just ahead of the chamber with a patch, then carefully pour in the hot wax.

 

[Pgybabz]

sporterized type 38 arisaka
best way to determine the proper caliber
chamber cast

Thank you so much for your response. I found it on the web and it is exactly what I have. It says it is a 6.5x50mm caliber. I will research on how to do chamber cast. Thanks again.

 

[solv3nt]

Dang, old thread with Iron Monster. RIP.

 

[Pgybabz]

The long barrel shown in the picture suggests an original barrel. Which is likely 6.5mm Japanese. A quick check, how big is the bore at the muzzle? Is it smaller than a .30-06? Then it's probably 6.5mm. If you want to confirm, you can do a crude chamber casting with molten candle wax. Plug the barrel just ahead of the chamber with a patch, then carefully pour in the hot wax.

Thank you so much for your response. I did find an exact match through photos on the web that it is an Arisaka type 38. Most info on the web indicates it is a 6.5x50mm ammo. But I love that there is an option for a molten candle wax option, the lead type casting looks very involved for me. I will measure the bore at the muzzle side. Thank you all for the help.