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I just don't understand how folks could pay the equivalent price to buy a new truck when they could get something like this! Wow. Very cool!
Or better yet (IMO), a WC series era Power Wagon dropped onto a later era (pre-'98.5) 4WD chassis with a Cummins.

I am fine with my '97 3500 - especially if I spend some $ repairing some issues and upgrading it a bit.
 
Or better yet (IMO), a WC series era Power Wagon dropped onto a later era (pre-'98.5) 4WD chassis with a Cummins.

I am fine with my '97 3500 - especially if I spend some $ repairing some issues and upgrading it a bit.
DON'T do that!

Leave it as it, just swap the old Buzzin Half Dozen with a Cummins ITB 3.9 and trans of your choice!
The Factory body will NOT, I repeat NOT fit a Six Banger Cummins with out seriously cutting into the cab and floor and firewall, like a foot in every direction!
Besides, the factory frame is SUPER strong, and the suspension is seriously over rated ( Replacement springs are still available) though the factory U Bolts are no longer available ( hit me up if you need them, I have three good full sets) and the axles are Dana 60's front and rear, or a 70 on the rear for the 1 ton's! If you get REAL lucky and find a 1/2 ton, you got a gold mine in the axles, thats a Dana 60 rear and a super duty Dana 44 up front, gear sets are easy, lockers available from all the manufactures, and obviously, axle shafts! Us 1 ton guys have a bit more work, but it isn't a big deal, Yukon makes the axle shafts front and real, as well as the ring and pinion sets in most ratios from 4.10 to 6.30 ( Check your factory set CLOSELY) lots of these came with ether 5.30's or 5.88, and the super ton's came with the big 6.30's! Note, the 4.10 gear sets are really hard to come by, both Dana and Yukon only produce a small lot each year, so if you go that route, order early, everyone and their brother wants the 4.10's, I prefer the 4.30's for mine, plenty of gear and yet I still have enough road speed with the Over Drive top gear!

Out side of that, Power Steering and Power Brake kits are available for these trucks, not cheap, but they are seriously worth every penny, AND the 12 volt conversion with alternator of your choice is about as stupid simple as it gets, Almost every part is still available for these trucks, though you have to source them from one of the few Gov. Contractors that took over the inventory after the DoD divested it's self, still, there are tons of parts,a dn the trucks are stupid simple to work on! Shipping is reasonable, and QUICK, and they are super easy to work with! Just got a set of Eaton E- Lockers for my newest truck, and talked to the Wheel Maker that makes the New Old Stock Super Heavy Duty ( Much thicker mounting flange surface) rims minus the Split Ring, and they shipped me a full set of the new Wheel Centers, which cannot be flipped like the OG wheels, AND, the rim barrel is now 17 inch, instead of the 16.5, so tire choices are much better now! Just picked up a full set of Super Swamper TSL/SX's in a 40X15X17!
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DON'T do that!

Leave it as it, just swap the old Buzzin Half Dozen with a Cummins ITB 3.9 and trans of your choice!
The Factory body will NOT, I repeat NOT fit a Six Banger Cummins with out seriously cutting into the cab and floor and firewall, like a foot in every direction!
Besides, the factory frame is SUPER strong, and the suspension is seriously over rated ( Replacement springs are still available) though the factory U Bolts are no longer available ( hit me up if you need them, I have three good full sets) and the axles are Dana 60's front and rear, or a 70 on the rear for the 1 ton's! If you get REAL lucky and find a 1/2 ton, you got a gold mine in the axles, thats a Dana 60 rear and a super duty Dana 44 up front, gear sets are easy, lockers available from all the manufactures, and obviously, axle shafts! Us 1 ton guys have a bit more work, but it isn't a big deal, Yukon makes the axle shafts front and real, as well as the ring and pinion sets in most ratios from 4.10 to 6.30 ( Check your factory set CLOSELY) lots of these came with ether 5.30's or 5.88, and the super ton's came with the big 6.30's! Note, the 4.10 gear sets are really hard to come by, both Dana and Yukon only produce a small lot each year, so if you go that route, order early, everyone and their brother wants the 4.10's, I prefer the 4.30's for mine, plenty of gear and yet I still have enough road speed with the Over Drive top gear!

Out side of that, Power Steering and Power Brake kits are available for these trucks, not cheap, but they are seriously worth every penny, AND the 12 volt conversion with alternator of your choice is about as stupid simple as it gets, Almost every part is still available for these trucks, though you have to source them from one of the few Gov. Contractors that took over the inventory after the DoD divested it's self, still, there are tons of parts,a dn the trucks are stupid simple to work on! Shipping is reasonable, and QUICK, and they are super easy to work with! Just got a set of Eaton E- Lockers for my newest truck, and talked to the Wheel Maker that makes the New Old Stock Super Heavy Duty ( Much thicker mounting flange surface) rims minus the Split Ring, and they shipped me a full set of the new Wheel Centers, which cannot be flipped like the OG wheels, AND, the rim barrel is now 17 inch, instead of the 16.5, so tire choices are much better now! Just picked up a full set of Super Swamper TSL/SX's in a 40X15X17!
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That Power Wagon just need red and white striping to get sponsored by Colgate or whoever did the mint and red toothpaste! :s0140:
 
What we probably will see more of; particularly in Portland and Eugene
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But they won't get to my neighborhood; too much elevation change upwards, a rocky road with lots of potholes, and too much distance from Portland (much less Eugene or Salem). I see the occasional cyclist on the gravel road to my neighborhood, trying to avoid cars, but all they get is dust from the residents driving to/from, bent rims/flat tires and a sore backend from the potholes/washboard/etc. - not to mention getting chased my dogs running lose (neighbor used to have a dog that hid in the ditch to chase any traffic on our private road).

Anyone on a bicycle or even a motorcyle/etc., will be a target for those willing to harm them for their stuff.
 
Anyone on a bicycle or even a motorcyle/etc., will be a target for those willing to harm them for their stuff.
How's that different from anyone with a running 4 wheel vehicle after SHTF? ;)

Besides, in urban areas (like Portland and Eugene); bicycles and carts loaded with garbage bags full of stuff are already everywhere, and I honestly don't know how much stealing/targeting goes on between homeless people for each others stuff?
 
Like the animal kingdom, the easiest prey falls first. People will be doing the bidding of the social planners. Thinning the herd so to speak. Saw George Carlin live in Vegas before his death. "Sure, you waive Hi to your neighbors now and compliment their lawn, but wait until the power has been gone for 90 days ........ underneath all the social BS we are still savages out to survive ......" "We all have a little Neanderthal left in us" "Our owners are counting on us to thin the herd so to speak, and we will."
 
Bums with bikes and carts will have it much better than most. They have already adapted to life w/o electricity, heat, and comfort. That crosses my mind every time I see one, has for years. Plus they are very low level targets for theft. The thugs will head immediately to the 'safe neighborhoods' and the unarmed gated communities.
 
Like the animal kingdom, the easiest prey falls first. People will be doing the bidding of the social planners. Thinning the herd so to speak. Saw George Carlin live in Vegas before his death. "Sure, you waive high to your neighbors now and compliment their lawn, but wait until the power has been gone for 90 days ........ underneath all the social BS we are still savages out to survive ......" "Our owners are counting on US to thin the herd so to speak, and we will."
Humans still are humans , before you know it, there'll be small communities popping up everywhere, especially in rural/semirural areas, people getting together for mutual defense, bartering, community things... while the cities likely will burn and be where the thugs, ultraviolent people are coming from or going to... but small towns, small communities, some neighborhoods will likely continue to have the appearance of functioning societies. Church groups, religious communities, cultish groups likely will be thriving a bit because they provide a modicum of "normalness" and hope
 

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