The ridiculous cost of fast food now

[Alexx1401]

Exactly. Good clean calories, not salty fat soaked ones. Fast food sucks. The taste isn't even all that good.

When my father was in hospice, he used to sneak beer and liquor even though he wasn't supposed to. He was a lifelong alcoholic. He would tell me "I only drink because I like the taste" which was BS of course. I always thought that was a really immature answer. Grown adults should be able to control what they put in their bodies with better decision making than "It tastes good".

Many will say stuff like that when its already too late. At that point why not. One of Wife's siblings drank themselves to death. The Doctors saved them one time and they went back to the drink till they had Pancreatic Cancer. After they were told times up they lived with us till very close to the end. They still drank only now on Morphine they did not consume much. Some of the other siblings used to complain about how we were doing it since the one dying was always not quite all there on the drugs. Every time one of them said it in my presence I would offer to pack up their stuff and send them home with them to take care of. None of them of course wanted that. So they soon learned to keep their opinion to themselves when I was around. I was a little surprised at how the Hospice RN who would stop by to check would just hand me more Morphine as needed. Guess I did not look like someone who was going to do criminal stuff with it but it still kind of shocked me considering the way they seemed to go on full alert when I would fill my Oxi prescriptions at the pharmacy.

 

[Kruel J]

Many will say stuff like that when its already too late. At that point why not. One of Wife's siblings drank themselves to death. The Doctors saved them one time and they went back to the drink till they had Pancreatic Cancer. After they were told times up they lived with us till very close to the end. They still drank only now on Morphine they did not consume much. Some of the other siblings used to complain about how we were doing it since the one dying was always not quite all there on the drugs. Every time one of them said it in my presence I would offer to pack up their stuff and send them home with them to take care of. None of them of course wanted that. So they soon learned to keep their opinion to themselves when I was around. I was a little surprised at how the Hospice RN who would stop by to check would just hand me more Morphine as needed. Guess I did not look like someone who was going to do criminal stuff with it but it still kind of shocked me considering the way they seemed to go on full alert when I would fill my Oxi prescriptions at the pharmacy.

That's the thing. Many WILL say that when it's too late but why exacerbate it? The doctor told my dad that he needed to stop all alcohol consumption before he was even on hospice. Did he stop? Nope. Maybe for a day or two then he was back at it. He knew it was killing him yet he kept going even when he was placed in hospice. The booze was more important than living to him. I ditched the sauce almost 5 years ago....in fact it was seeing my father in hospice barely able to move and using two hands to tip a beer bottle into his mouth that did it for me. It was honestly sad and pathetic to watch. It was all I needed to give up drinking and make better decisions. I feel like some people do that with fast food as well but I digress. Apologies for the thread drift. Self control is a topic I get passionate about.

 

[Certaindeaf]

That's the thing. Many WILL say that when it's too late but why exacerbate it? The doctor told my dad that he needed to stop all alcohol consumption before he was even on hospice. Did he stop? Nope. Maybe for a day or two then he was back at it. He knew it was killing him yet he kept going even when he was placed in hospice. The booze was more important than living to him. I ditched the sauce almost 5 years ago....in fact it was seeing my father in hospice barely able to move and using two hands to tip a beer bottle into his mouth that did it for me. It was honestly sad and pathetic to watch. It was all I needed to give up drinking and make better decisions. I feel like some people do that with fast food as well but I digress. Apologies for the thread drift. Self control is a topic I get passionate about.

I quit seven years ago, thankfully. Now I'm perfect.






not really

 

[Alexx1401]

That's the thing. Many WILL say that when it's too late but why exacerbate it? The doctor told my dad that he needed to stop all alcohol consumption before he was even on hospice. Did he stop? Nope. Maybe for a day or two then he was back at it. He knew it was killing him yet he kept going even when he was placed in hospice. The booze was more important than living to him. I ditched the sauce almost 5 years ago....in fact it was seeing my father in hospice barely able to move and using two hands to tip a beer bottle into his mouth that did it for me. It was honestly sad and pathetic to watch. It was all I needed to give up drinking and make better decisions. I feel like some people do that with fast food as well but I digress. Apologies for the thread drift. Self control is a topic I get passionate about.

Its really sad to watch someone you love do that to themselves. They often do not really seem to "think" about how what they are doing is effecting those around them who have to watch it happen. I hope he can find more peace in the next life than he could in this one. Working in health care I often get to see the results of those who drink to the point they are addicted. The withdrawal process is amazing to see first hand even when they are heavily drugged to help them get past it. I have often said we should be able to video it to show others before its too late. Might make a few of them stop before its too damn late.

 

[made in china]

Apologies for the thread drift. Self control is a topic I get passionate about.

It's a good thread drift, no apologies

 

[billdeserthills]

In one sitting?

Nope, in the week they were sold

 

[solv3nt]

Nope, in the week they were sold

I had one years ago after drinking wine with my buddy. My thought was that it needed a bun outside of the chicken.

 

[billdeserthills]

I had one years ago after drinking wine with my buddy. My thought was that it needed a bun outside of the chicken.

That would be too much food for one meal

 

[jbett98]

 

[jbett98]

And they'll cost about 7 to 10 bucks. Cook your own.

 

[MichaelH]

That's the thing. Many WILL say that when it's too late but why exacerbate it? The doctor told my dad that he needed to stop all alcohol consumption before he was even on hospice. Did he stop? Nope. Maybe for a day or two then he was back at it. He knew it was killing him yet he kept going even when he was placed in hospice. The booze was more important than living to him. I ditched the sauce almost 5 years ago....in fact it was seeing my father in hospice barely able to move and using two hands to tip a beer bottle into his mouth that did it for me. It was honestly sad and pathetic to watch. It was all I needed to give up drinking and make better decisions. I feel like some people do that with fast food as well but I digress. Apologies for the thread drift. Self control is a topic I get passionate about.

If you're headed into Hospice I doubt that quitting vices is going to do much good, other than make it easier to be present longer. Sorry that your father had that issue. It's not a fun problem to deal with.

Most professionals see it as a mental health issue rather than a self-control issue. People not exercising or eating too much dessert too often is a self-control issue. People taking addictive drugs for years to deal with real mental health issues IS still a mental health issue. Alcohol is an addictive drug and unlike heroin or fentanyl the withdrawals can kill people. The guy who gets a mean buzz on every day after work through bed time, but is otherwise functional between 6:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m. Monday through Friday can die of DT's if he stops drinking cold turkey. I have tons of empathy for the addicted, but it does start to get sad when people are offered opportunities to get professional help and refuse to take it. Regardless of why, good on you for quitting.


On to fast food. Fast food sucks. I'd far rather eat at a diner for a little more if it's a real meal substitute. In Portland, fast food is an incredibly bad value because you can get a quality interesting meal here for less than $15. For example you can get superb fast, tasty mexican from a higher end restaurant for like $14.00 for so much food you can't eat it all, or a lamb schwarma sando at Nickolas is like $12, with fries and there is a salad on it.

However fast food IS fast, and I eat it when in a hurry and don't have time to eat somewhere else. Even if I watch what I eat, after growing up with militant whole food (the kind, not the store) vegetarians, I ditched that kind of rigidity a long time ago. The thing is, if I'm realistic, I don't need the giant supersized combo, ever, and I am a large guy. I typically order the basic double cheese burger type thing, medium fries ala cart (because honestly they're the best thing McDonalds sells) and maybe a drink if I don't have water kicking around in the car. Even with a drink it never costs more than six or seven bucks. That's usually enough calories to hold me over to the next real meal, two day's worth of sodium which is the thing that makes it sort of addictive, and I didn't spend too much or feel completely awful. Interestingly Little Big Burger was where I learned that I really didn't need some giant 2/3 pound burger to be satisfied.

 

[Cavedweller]

I was a little surprised at how the Hospice RN who would stop by to check would just hand me more Morphine as needed. Guess I did not look like someone who was going to do criminal stuff with it but it still kind of shocked me considering the way they seemed to go on full alert when I would fill my Oxi prescriptions at the pharmacy.

I was similarly surprised when my Mother was in hospice with us after being diagnosed with terminal brain cancer. Morphine and other opiates were provided in unlimited quantities, no accounting needed. Seems like a program that is ripe for abuse.

 

[Alexx1401]

I was similarly surprised when my Mother was in hospice with us after being diagnosed with terminal brain cancer. Morphine and other opiates were provided in unlimited quantities, no accounting needed. Seems like a program that is ripe for abuse.

YIKES! In a Hospice that does seem like that would be just begging to have someone steal. One patient is one thing but a place with multiple patients? That would be ripe for someone to start stealing the damn drugs.

 

[Cavedweller]

YIKES! In a Hospice that does seem like that would be just begging to have someone steal. One patient is one thing but a place with multiple patients? That would be ripe for someone to start stealing the damn drugs.

Sorry, I guess there was a bit of misunderstanding. She was not in a Hospice. Like your in-law she lived with us while terminal but was in the hospice program. Like you, we had a visiting hospice nurse, although she did not dispense medication. I had to go to the pharm to pick it up. But there was no accounting for it or even supervision to ensure the patient was getting it. An unethical care giver could easily have taken advantage of the program. That was my point.

 

[Alexx1401]

Sorry, I guess there was a bit of misunderstanding. She was not in a Hospice. Like your in-law she lived with us while terminal but was in the hospice program. Like you, we had a visiting hospice nurse, although she did not dispense medication. I had to go to the pharm to pick it up. But there was no accounting for it or even supervision to ensure the patient was getting it. An unethical care giver could easily have taken advantage of the program. That was my point.

OK, that's not as bad as I first thought then. I was quite shocked at how the Nurse would just hand me bottles of Morphine but, I have to guess they just figured the patient is comfortable so I could not be supplying too many others . She was kept "dopey" but she could converse fine and it was easy to see she knew what was going on. The simple instructions were she could have as much Morphine as she wanted to be pain free.

 

[Jay Walk]

Luckily, fast food is 100% optional.
Just say NO.

 

[billdeserthills]

OK, that's not as bad as I first thought then. I was quite shocked at how the Nurse would just hand me bottles of Morphine but, I have to guess they just figured the patient is comfortable so I could not be supplying too many others . She was kept "dopey" but she could converse fine and it was easy to see she knew what was going on. The simple instructions were she could have as much Morphine as she wanted to be pain free.

If ever there was a perfect time to abuse morphine, seems like right before 'checking out' would be it

 

[WEE]

I for one am glad that fast food prices have shot up. It has discouraged me from getting that food that used to be relatively cheap and inexpensive, but nutritionally is bad for my aging body. I have become more aware of the health dangers of fats, added sugars and salt, and fast food is loaded with all of them. So now, grocery shopping, I realize these same dangers are in lots of foods there, too. Especially processed foods, soups, dairy products, deli meats, pasta sauce, breads. Fortunately I live in an area with stores that offer lots of choices in each department, so making wise choices for me and my wife are available. We still indulge in fast food about once a month. I still love a good pizza or hamburger or teriyaki.
As far as alcohol, I watched both my dad and my father in law die as alcoholics. My.wife and I don't want to be like that, so we only have the occasional beverage or mixed drink. We loved our dads but it was sad to watch their selfish addiction and decline.

 

[Alexx1401]

If ever there was a perfect time to abuse morphine, seems like right before 'checking out' would be it

If I ever end up with terminal whatever? When it was time that is how I would want to end it. Go to sleep and not wake up. Many cling to "life" even in the end. When Wife's Dad went he took the option to try to "fix" things. He was in bed and needed pacemaker installed. The Doc's warned him he could easily die if they tried. He told us if I die I join my Wife but damned if I am going to stay bed ridden. Some of Wife's siblings were all bent out of shape but she told them tough its his choice. So they took a shot. Did not help him and he did soon go but I agreed with him. Take the shot. Still seems strange that both of them are no longer around. Wife and I were out running around today and stopped by where they are laid to rest.

 

[kmk1012]

If I ever end up with terminal whatever? When it was time that is how I would want to end it. Go to sleep and not wake up. Many cling to "life" even in the end. When Wife's Dad went he took the option to try to "fix" things. He was in bed and needed pacemaker installed. The Doc's warned him he could easily die if they tried. He told us if I die I join my Wife but damned if I am going to stay bed ridden. Some of Wife's siblings were all bent out of shape but she told them tough its his choice. So they took a shot. Did not help him and he did soon go but I agreed with him. Take the shot. Still seems strange that both of them are no longer around. Wife and I were out running around today and stopped by where they are laid to rest.

Dang man, makes me have a teary eye after my oncologist appointment today and hearing your story. My numbers climbed out of the normal or "remission" category today. They said the next cycle or few we will need to have a much different conversation about treatment. The last four years, after surgery and treatment, have let me live relatively pain free and almost a normal life. I couldn't ask for more. The next few months or "cycles" willl let me know which direction I am heading. I'll tell you what though, I've already dealt with pain that would make average man end it all and still proved I'm tough enough. But when it gets close for me, give me a cocktail of what it takes to keep me from ever getting there again when it comes to pain. Sorry about the bummer post but reflecting on some not so good news after my chemo appointment today. I'm planning on a couple years more god willing. On that note, @bbbass hasnt been heard from in a long time. I've met him and went to his local range when I was over there, a real true American man with a very similar disease that I have. We connected during our treatments and transplants and I pray he is ok. I have been too busy focusing on work to pay attention to real friends lately and after today realize I made the wrong choice.