The ridiculous cost of fast food now

[Alexx1401]

Exactly. Good clean calories, not salty fat soaked ones. Fast food sucks. The taste isn't even all that good.

When my father was in hospice, he used to sneak beer and liquor even though he wasn't supposed to. He was a lifelong alcoholic. He would tell me "I only drink because I like the taste" which was BS of course. I always thought that was a really immature answer. Grown adults should be able to control what they put in their bodies with better decision making than "It tastes good".

Many will say stuff like that when its already too late. At that point why not. One of Wife's siblings drank themselves to death. The Doctors saved them one time and they went back to the drink till they had Pancreatic Cancer. After they were told times up they lived with us till very close to the end. They still drank only now on Morphine they did not consume much. Some of the other siblings used to complain about how we were doing it since the one dying was always not quite all there on the drugs. Every time one of them said it in my presence I would offer to pack up their stuff and send them home with them to take care of. None of them of course wanted that. So they soon learned to keep their opinion to themselves when I was around. I was a little surprised at how the Hospice RN who would stop by to check would just hand me more Morphine as needed. Guess I did not look like someone who was going to do criminal stuff with it but it still kind of shocked me considering the way they seemed to go on full alert when I would fill my Oxi prescriptions at the pharmacy.

 

[Kruel J]

Many will say stuff like that when its already too late. At that point why not. One of Wife's siblings drank themselves to death. The Doctors saved them one time and they went back to the drink till they had Pancreatic Cancer. After they were told times up they lived with us till very close to the end. They still drank only now on Morphine they did not consume much. Some of the other siblings used to complain about how we were doing it since the one dying was always not quite all there on the drugs. Every time one of them said it in my presence I would offer to pack up their stuff and send them home with them to take care of. None of them of course wanted that. So they soon learned to keep their opinion to themselves when I was around. I was a little surprised at how the Hospice RN who would stop by to check would just hand me more Morphine as needed. Guess I did not look like someone who was going to do criminal stuff with it but it still kind of shocked me considering the way they seemed to go on full alert when I would fill my Oxi prescriptions at the pharmacy.

That's the thing. Many WILL say that when it's too late but why exacerbate it? The doctor told my dad that he needed to stop all alcohol consumption before he was even on hospice. Did he stop? Nope. Maybe for a day or two then he was back at it. He knew it was killing him yet he kept going even when he was placed in hospice. The booze was more important than living to him. I ditched the sauce almost 5 years ago....in fact it was seeing my father in hospice barely able to move and using two hands to tip a beer bottle into his mouth that did it for me. It was honestly sad and pathetic to watch. It was all I needed to give up drinking and make better decisions. I feel like some people do that with fast food as well but I digress. Apologies for the thread drift. Self control is a topic I get passionate about.

 

[Certaindeaf]

That's the thing. Many WILL say that when it's too late but why exacerbate it? The doctor told my dad that he needed to stop all alcohol consumption before he was even on hospice. Did he stop? Nope. Maybe for a day or two then he was back at it. He knew it was killing him yet he kept going even when he was placed in hospice. The booze was more important than living to him. I ditched the sauce almost 5 years ago....in fact it was seeing my father in hospice barely able to move and using two hands to tip a beer bottle into his mouth that did it for me. It was honestly sad and pathetic to watch. It was all I needed to give up drinking and make better decisions. I feel like some people do that with fast food as well but I digress. Apologies for the thread drift. Self control is a topic I get passionate about.

I quit seven years ago, thankfully. Now I'm perfect.






not really

 

[Alexx1401]

That's the thing. Many WILL say that when it's too late but why exacerbate it? The doctor told my dad that he needed to stop all alcohol consumption before he was even on hospice. Did he stop? Nope. Maybe for a day or two then he was back at it. He knew it was killing him yet he kept going even when he was placed in hospice. The booze was more important than living to him. I ditched the sauce almost 5 years ago....in fact it was seeing my father in hospice barely able to move and using two hands to tip a beer bottle into his mouth that did it for me. It was honestly sad and pathetic to watch. It was all I needed to give up drinking and make better decisions. I feel like some people do that with fast food as well but I digress. Apologies for the thread drift. Self control is a topic I get passionate about.

Its really sad to watch someone you love do that to themselves. They often do not really seem to "think" about how what they are doing is effecting those around them who have to watch it happen. I hope he can find more peace in the next life than he could in this one. Working in health care I often get to see the results of those who drink to the point they are addicted. The withdrawal process is amazing to see first hand even when they are heavily drugged to help them get past it. I have often said we should be able to video it to show others before its too late. Might make a few of them stop before its too damn late.

 

[made in china]

Apologies for the thread drift. Self control is a topic I get passionate about.

It's a good thread drift, no apologies

 

[billdeserthills]

In one sitting?

Nope, in the week they were sold

 

[solv3nt]

Nope, in the week they were sold

I had one years ago after drinking wine with my buddy. My thought was that it needed a bun outside of the chicken.

 

[billdeserthills]

I had one years ago after drinking wine with my buddy. My thought was that it needed a bun outside of the chicken.

That would be too much food for one meal

 

[jbett98]

 

[jbett98]

And they'll cost about 7 to 10 bucks. Cook your own.

 

[MichaelH]

That's the thing. Many WILL say that when it's too late but why exacerbate it? The doctor told my dad that he needed to stop all alcohol consumption before he was even on hospice. Did he stop? Nope. Maybe for a day or two then he was back at it. He knew it was killing him yet he kept going even when he was placed in hospice. The booze was more important than living to him. I ditched the sauce almost 5 years ago....in fact it was seeing my father in hospice barely able to move and using two hands to tip a beer bottle into his mouth that did it for me. It was honestly sad and pathetic to watch. It was all I needed to give up drinking and make better decisions. I feel like some people do that with fast food as well but I digress. Apologies for the thread drift. Self control is a topic I get passionate about.

If you're headed into Hospice I doubt that quitting vices is going to do much good, other than make it easier to be present longer. Sorry that your father had that issue. It's not a fun problem to deal with.

Most professionals see it as a mental health issue rather than a self-control issue. People not exercising or eating too much dessert too often is a self-control issue. People taking addictive drugs for years to deal with real mental health issues IS still a mental health issue. Alcohol is an addictive drug and unlike heroin or fentanyl the withdrawals can kill people. The guy who gets a mean buzz on every day after work through bed time, but is otherwise functional between 6:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m. Monday through Friday can die of DT's if he stops drinking cold turkey. I have tons of empathy for the addicted, but it does start to get sad when people are offered opportunities to get professional help and refuse to take it. Regardless of why, good on you for quitting.


On to fast food. Fast food sucks. I'd far rather eat at a diner for a little more if it's a real meal substitute. In Portland, fast food is an incredibly bad value because you can get a quality interesting meal here for less than $15. For example you can get superb fast, tasty mexican from a higher end restaurant for like $14.00 for so much food you can't eat it all, or a lamb schwarma sando at Nickolas is like $12, with fries and there is a salad on it.

However fast food IS fast, and I eat it when in a hurry and don't have time to eat somewhere else. Even if I watch what I eat, after growing up with militant whole food (the kind, not the store) vegetarians, I ditched that kind of rigidity a long time ago. The thing is, if I'm realistic, I don't need the giant supersized combo, ever, and I am a large guy. I typically order the basic double cheese burger type thing, medium fries ala cart (because honestly they're the best thing McDonalds sells) and maybe a drink if I don't have water kicking around in the car. Even with a drink it never costs more than six or seven bucks. That's usually enough calories to hold me over to the next real meal, two day's worth of sodium which is the thing that makes it sort of addictive, and I didn't spend too much or feel completely awful. Interestingly Little Big Burger was where I learned that I really didn't need some giant 2/3 pound burger to be satisfied.

 

[Cavedweller]

I was a little surprised at how the Hospice RN who would stop by to check would just hand me more Morphine as needed. Guess I did not look like someone who was going to do criminal stuff with it but it still kind of shocked me considering the way they seemed to go on full alert when I would fill my Oxi prescriptions at the pharmacy.

I was similarly surprised when my Mother was in hospice with us after being diagnosed with terminal brain cancer. Morphine and other opiates were provided in unlimited quantities, no accounting needed. Seems like a program that is ripe for abuse.

 

[Alexx1401]

I was similarly surprised when my Mother was in hospice with us after being diagnosed with terminal brain cancer. Morphine and other opiates were provided in unlimited quantities, no accounting needed. Seems like a program that is ripe for abuse.

YIKES! In a Hospice that does seem like that would be just begging to have someone steal. One patient is one thing but a place with multiple patients? That would be ripe for someone to start stealing the damn drugs.

 

[Cavedweller]

YIKES! In a Hospice that does seem like that would be just begging to have someone steal. One patient is one thing but a place with multiple patients? That would be ripe for someone to start stealing the damn drugs.

Sorry, I guess there was a bit of misunderstanding. She was not in a Hospice. Like your in-law she lived with us while terminal but was in the hospice program. Like you, we had a visiting hospice nurse, although she did not dispense medication. I had to go to the pharm to pick it up. But there was no accounting for it or even supervision to ensure the patient was getting it. An unethical care giver could easily have taken advantage of the program. That was my point.