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I agree with the sentiment that 2A/gun stuff should not be a political issue. But reality dictates that it is. If you lean Dem/Liberal (not small "l" liberal, like a libertarian or classical liberal, most of whom would never be caught dead voting for a "D") you have to make peace with the fact that most everyone you will vote for is actively campaigning for the destruction of what people on this forum not only enjoy but often feel is an integral part of a strong and healthy citizenry. That is bound to turn some heads no matter how you try to frame it.
Yes, we have "D" aligned members, and they are welcome and respected, but even more than that they are encouraged to go make waves in their own party. If you want to bring us together that is on you, because if I am going to try and convince someone to alter their politics I am aiming for the whole enchilada, not just "gun rights, but for the other side." Quite frankly I do not believe that you can convince that party (as a whole) to accept that kind of healthy and permissive freedom, so I do not even try. If you feel otherwise knock yourself out, and we will be here to help provide facts and resources when appropriate.
But don't get your feelings hurt when people here react badly to the next terrible law that comes from some candidate you voted for. Don't expect any sympathy when you start whining about new laws going into effect and you need to figure out what new hell is all legal. They are your candidates, you should know better than anyone else what they are up to, and that voting for them was voting for the destruction of this hobby and way of life.
If you cannot handle that reality then this is probably not the place for you. If you can, and are willing to make a good faith effort to uphold the tenets of this community despite what your preferred candidates are trying to do to us, well then maybe we can find some useful common ground.
Yes, we have "D" aligned members, and they are welcome and respected, but even more than that they are encouraged to go make waves in their own party. If you want to bring us together that is on you, because if I am going to try and convince someone to alter their politics I am aiming for the whole enchilada, not just "gun rights, but for the other side." Quite frankly I do not believe that you can convince that party (as a whole) to accept that kind of healthy and permissive freedom, so I do not even try. If you feel otherwise knock yourself out, and we will be here to help provide facts and resources when appropriate.
But don't get your feelings hurt when people here react badly to the next terrible law that comes from some candidate you voted for. Don't expect any sympathy when you start whining about new laws going into effect and you need to figure out what new hell is all legal. They are your candidates, you should know better than anyone else what they are up to, and that voting for them was voting for the destruction of this hobby and way of life.
If you cannot handle that reality then this is probably not the place for you. If you can, and are willing to make a good faith effort to uphold the tenets of this community despite what your preferred candidates are trying to do to us, well then maybe we can find some useful common ground.