Good survivalist / prepper vehicle

[pdx210]

I live at my BOL, and as it is now, I only go into town, on average, about twice a month, sometimes less. Which is why I am not too concerned about fuel; even if I go into town once a month, I have enough treated fuel stored to last for years.

My immediate vehicle usage - if SHTF - would be to transport my kids and their stuff from their house (15 miles away), to my house.

My main concern I have is if we have the "big one" (Cascadian earthquake) and the bridges or the roads are impassable even with a 4x4. The two bridges between us are supposed to be able to withstand a severe earthquake - but who knows for sure?

Also, my SIL works in Portland, almost all the way north to the Columbia river. So if he is at work when the earthquake hits (50/50 chance?), then it will be an ordeal for him to get home. I've convinced my kids to have a GHB in their car, but I am not sure how diligent they are about keeping it there and supplied appropriately. OTOH, my daughter works from home, so the chance that she is there if an earthquake hits is 95+%.

What I am looking for is something to convert my truck to an RV for travel. Also for my pickup to flat tow and keep a dirt bike inside of a canopy over the bed, out of sight and I would flat tow behind my truck. Both vehicles would do double duty as a SHTF vehicle.

In the case of a SHTF event, I am mostly okay with what I have now - but it would be nice to have the option of a habitat on both the truck and the pickup.

It sounds like he needs a small inflatable raft, & a dry bag just in case. I wouldn't count on Portland for anything! strike that I'd count on them making a bad situation much worse

 

[Burt Gummer]

Not having a small dual-sport motorcycle is probably a mistake on my part. When roads are jammed up with cars that ran out of gas, etc, it is the only sure way to cover distance. BP vest and cross my fingers.

John escaped the most advanced AI future terminator on one with some help

 

[CamoDeafie]

Not having a small dual-sport motorcycle is probably a mistake on my part. When roads are jammed up with cars that ran out of gas, etc, it is the only sure way to cover distance. BP vest and cross my fingers.

John escaped the most advanced AI future terminator on one with some help

Seems militaries agreed, M-Gators and ATVs are apparently more useful for their jobs than the 2 wheelers though that diesel bike is cool

 

[The Heretic]

I want these:

HYBRID E-ATV

HYBRID/Electric ATV $18,950 -Up to 250 mile range with onboard genset recharging (4 X)-5,000 watt on board generator to charge 72V drive battery-10,000 Watt offboard power inverter-4 independent hub motors-4 independent controllers-true silent operation (no drivetrain noise)-Made in USA...

christini.com

CHRISTINI AWD 450 Big wheel

CHRISTINI AWD 450 Big wheel - The AWD Big Wheel from CHRISTINI just may be the ultimate off-road exploration machine.

christinimotorcycles.com

CHRISTINI AWD 300 E-Start

CHRISTINI AWD 300 E-Start - with years of EnduroCross racing, it is able to tackle the tightest trails and most rugged terrain that man and mother nature can throw at you.

christinimotorcycles.com

 

[Burt Gummer]

The TW200 would be my choice for getting around over just about anything while being 100% bulletproof - reliable as they come. Won't make the rider stand out, it is pretty much a farm bike that can still/barely (60mph or so) hit the highway if needed.

portland motorcycles/scooters - by owner "Yamaha TW200" - craigslist

portland motorcycles/scooters - by owner "Yamaha TW200" - craigslist

portland.craigslist.org

 

[CamoDeafie]

I'm half surprised that militaries keep trying to use bicycles. Most seem to be in Middle East areas, some look temperate/tropical.




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. Might be useful in a suburban/semirural civil defense group setting where cyclists are a little more agile/mobile (speedier) than just being on foot all the time.. less speedy/mobile than a vehicle but a lot more quieter other than the sounds of gears and pedaling

 

[The Heretic]

I'm half surprised that militaries keep trying to use bicycles. Most seem to be in Middle East areas, some look temperate/tropical.


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. Might be useful in a suburban/semirural civil defense group setting where cyclists are a little more agile/mobile (speedier) than just being on foot all the time.. less speedy/mobile than a vehicle but a lot more quieter other than the sounds of gears and pedaling

A bicycle can get you a lot farther over relatively smooth terrain than you can travel on foot. A person in good shape (e.g., most infantry/etc.), with a pack should be able to do 100 miles per day on level paved roads. My first "century" (bicycle speak for 100 miles) included crossing a "mountain" that involved a rather steep 1000' elevation change when I was 17 YO. If the bicycle had a battery assist motor, that would have been a LOT easier and I could have done more than 100 miles that day - especially if they had a trailer for their cargo.

If the trailer had a hybrid electric motor and/or ICE to assist/recharge the batteries a person could easily do several hundred miles in a day over smooth terrain. If the trailer had an ICE assist/recharging, the person could use the ICE when noise was not an issue, and switch to electric only when noise was an issue. Someday we will have affordable refuelable fuel cells/etc. that are silent, but allow for a LOT more power/range.

Walking 20 miles a day with a heavy pack would put most infantry in the ground.

As for noise, a bicycle is almost silent - the main noise would be the tires, especially on gravel.

But for refugees, a bicycle is an alternative backup means of transport to be carried on/in a ICE powered vehicle like a 4 wheeled vehicle or even a motorcycle.

 

[Burt Gummer]

Still mad that a friend talked me into a bike (Trek) with skinny, fast on the street tires. The one above is only 2/3rds as fast with the same effort. But look at those tires - lovely! Durability and reliability are no 1 to me.

 

[CamoDeafie]

Still mad that a friend talked me into a bike (Trek) with skinny, fast on the street tires. The one above is only 2/3rds as fast with the same effort. But look at those tires - lovely! Durability and reliability are no 1 to me.

Depending on the wheel size and clearances, a lot of road bikes can be converted to all terrain/mountain/cross country bikes by swapping for a wider rim. For example, 700cc road bike to 29er gravel/mtb wheels and tires. Might need spread rear frame apart, might need swap narrow front fork for wider fork or suspension fork.

 

[CamoDeafie]

This may be AI/photoshop/fake

Jeep popup campers, more realistic

 

[CamoDeafie]

Not a half bad idea.. just... they couldn't find a better donor car to use?

 

[Burt Gummer]

Always wanted one with the Hybusa(?) Suzuki power! Would love it.

 

[Indy62]

A great city+off road tire is the Continental Ride Tour. Extra puncture proof layer, long milage. If you really need to hoof it and a car/motorcycle isn't an option. Have them on both mountain bikes which I converted to commuter /shtf duty.

Bicycles are pretty much the most efficient vehicle known to man.

https://www.continental-tires.com/products/b2c/bicycle/tires/ride-tour/

 

[hongkong2]

Not a half bad idea.. just... they couldn't find a better donor car to use?
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I'll take the Alfa behind it!