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Due to 594, Museum is returning firearms to owners
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The Lynden Museum will return eleven WWII firearms loaned by owners; so the museum won't be in violation of I-594
https://tv.yahoo.com/news/washington-state-museum-pulls-firearms-wwii-exhibit-over-203715826.html
... some of the items to return include a rare Japanese flare pistol and an anti-tank rifle.
As these and other items were on loan from collectors, the museum won't qualify for exemption, even under the limited provisions for antique firearms.
... now what other museums might be affected?
Would the aircraft mounted machine guns and other static displays in the Museum of Flight be exempt?
Doubt it?
https://tv.yahoo.com/news/washington-state-museum-pulls-firearms-wwii-exhibit-over-203715826.html
... some of the items to return include a rare Japanese flare pistol and an anti-tank rifle.
As these and other items were on loan from collectors, the museum won't qualify for exemption, even under the limited provisions for antique firearms.
... now what other museums might be affected?
Would the aircraft mounted machine guns and other static displays in the Museum of Flight be exempt?
Doubt it?
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Washington state museum pulls firearms from WWII exhibit over new gun law
SEATTLE (Reuters) - A museum in Washington state plans to remove about a dozen borrowed firearms from a World War Two exhibit and return them to their owners to comply with a new gun law that requires background checks for all gun transfers, the institution said on Wednesday.
Washington voters passed legislation earlier this month expanding background checks on all firearms purchases to include sales at guns shows and online, as well for loans and transfers.
The Lynden Pioneer Museum, located about 100 miles north of Seattle and just south of the Canadian border, said that as a result it was pulling all 11 of the World War Two-era guns in its exhibit, "Over the Beach: The WWII Pacific Theater," before the law takes effect.
"The museum will be returning these guns to their owners because as of Dec. 4, we would be in violation of the law if we had loaned firearms that had not undergone the background check procedure," the museum said in a statement.
The exhibit includes vintage weapons and military equipment used during the war, as well as letters, photographs and other memorabilia and artifacts collected from veterans, said Troy Luginbill, the museum's director.
The weapons being returned to their owners include a rare Japanese flare pistol and an anti-tank rifle used in the war, he said.
"The board decided 11 firearms are not worth the chance of getting the museum shut down," Luginbill said. "We aren't trying to make a political statement."
Though the law has limited provisions for antiques and family members, the guns used in the display, on loan from individual collectors, do not qualify for either exemption, he said.
Washington Attorney General Bob Ferguson's office said in a statement that there have not been any lawsuits filed against the background check legislation, I-594, nor were there any opinion requests for guidance in the matter.
"Therefore, at this point we have no interpretations of the initiative to offer to the public beyond the text of the measure itself," a spokeswoman for Ferguson said.
SEATTLE (Reuters) - A museum in Washington state plans to remove about a dozen borrowed firearms from a World War Two exhibit and return them to their owners to comply with a new gun law that requires background checks for all gun transfers, the institution said on Wednesday.
Washington voters passed legislation earlier this month expanding background checks on all firearms purchases to include sales at guns shows and online, as well for loans and transfers.
The Lynden Pioneer Museum, located about 100 miles north of Seattle and just south of the Canadian border, said that as a result it was pulling all 11 of the World War Two-era guns in its exhibit, "Over the Beach: The WWII Pacific Theater," before the law takes effect.
"The museum will be returning these guns to their owners because as of Dec. 4, we would be in violation of the law if we had loaned firearms that had not undergone the background check procedure," the museum said in a statement.
The exhibit includes vintage weapons and military equipment used during the war, as well as letters, photographs and other memorabilia and artifacts collected from veterans, said Troy Luginbill, the museum's director.
The weapons being returned to their owners include a rare Japanese flare pistol and an anti-tank rifle used in the war, he said.
"The board decided 11 firearms are not worth the chance of getting the museum shut down," Luginbill said. "We aren't trying to make a political statement."
Though the law has limited provisions for antiques and family members, the guns used in the display, on loan from individual collectors, do not qualify for either exemption, he said.
Washington Attorney General Bob Ferguson's office said in a statement that there have not been any lawsuits filed against the background check legislation, I-594, nor were there any opinion requests for guidance in the matter.
"Therefore, at this point we have no interpretations of the initiative to offer to the public beyond the text of the measure itself," a spokeswoman for Ferguson said.
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How 'bout, once again, Paul Allen's hypocrisy on his NAZI TERROR WEAPONS on display in Everett?
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ARGH!! ...
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Can someone with a Washington address perhaps forward the article to the Governor
https://fortress.wa.gov/es/governor/
and perhaps the attorney general as well
https://fortress.wa.gov/atg/formhandler/ago/ContactForm.aspx
https://fortress.wa.gov/es/governor/
and perhaps the attorney general as well
https://fortress.wa.gov/atg/formhandler/ago/ContactForm.aspx
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Did anyone notice that the museum director made reference to " ......firearms that had not undergone the background check procedure." This misunderstanding is at the heart of the issue. Voters simply did not know what the bill was about. I heard this same argument from an employees at Dicks several months ago. She was adamant that the background check was just as much about stolen guns as about people.
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Having guns displayed in museums where they can be shown in a positive light does not fit the agenda. What they want is for the public at large to be terrified of firearms, which will only be in the hands of govt agencies. And that, folks, IS terrifying.
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He's a perfect example of more money than sense. Way more.
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Just trying to hoist the other side by their own petard...
Why is he glorifying Nazism with his Third Reich relics? For that matter, why does any honest person need a weapon of MASS DEATH like a Scud missile--what city is Allen planning to either hold hostage or destroy with it when buying influence no longer works for him?
(Yes, like the Lynden case they're all in a museum, but still... there's nothing in 594 exempting museums so it's gonna be funny watching Allen become caught in his own net when someone takes up one from his private air force. And I'm just gonna be breakin' out my brand-new LOLlerskates...)
Or his Fi-103 "Reichenberg"--a cruise missile with a human guidance system, like a Nazi kamikaze. Whose family is he going to hold hostage or threaten to make them strap into the thing, and what does he intend to destroy and who does he intend to kill with it?
Why is he glorifying Nazism with his Third Reich relics? For that matter, why does any honest person need a weapon of MASS DEATH like a Scud missile--what city is Allen planning to either hold hostage or destroy with it when buying influence no longer works for him?
(Yes, like the Lynden case they're all in a museum, but still... there's nothing in 594 exempting museums so it's gonna be funny watching Allen become caught in his own net when someone takes up one from his private air force. And I'm just gonna be breakin' out my brand-new LOLlerskates...)
Or his Fi-103 "Reichenberg"--a cruise missile with a human guidance system, like a Nazi kamikaze. Whose family is he going to hold hostage or threaten to make them strap into the thing, and what does he intend to destroy and who does he intend to kill with it?
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The AG of Washington State has already said that until a legal court ruling is put forward, he can do nothing about it. I doubt that the Governor even cares.
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I think they will selectively enforce the law, "progressively" tightening enforcement to prevent a backlash. The ultimate goal is for the state to determine who will and who won't have access to firearms.
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FOLLOW UP
http://reason.com/brickbat/2014/11/28/ancient-history
"The kindness of a pawn shop owner will keep Washington's Lynden Pioneer Museum from having to <broken link removed> and return them to the owners to comply with a new state law. Initiative 594, which voters passed earlier this month, requires background checks on all firearms transfers except between family members. There is no exception in the law for loans to museums. The museum had planned to return the firearms to owners before the law takes effect Dec. 4. But the owner of Pistol Annie's Jewelry and Pawn offered to do the background check on the museum director and when the firearms are returned do the checks on the owners. "
Just my 2c: if you are in the area, throw Pistol Annie's some business.
http://reason.com/brickbat/2014/11/28/ancient-history
"The kindness of a pawn shop owner will keep Washington's Lynden Pioneer Museum from having to <broken link removed> and return them to the owners to comply with a new state law. Initiative 594, which voters passed earlier this month, requires background checks on all firearms transfers except between family members. There is no exception in the law for loans to museums. The museum had planned to return the firearms to owners before the law takes effect Dec. 4. But the owner of Pistol Annie's Jewelry and Pawn offered to do the background check on the museum director and when the firearms are returned do the checks on the owners. "
Just my 2c: if you are in the area, throw Pistol Annie's some business.
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There is another thread in General on this same topic.
Here is the same follow up:
http://reason.com/brickbat/2014/11/28/ancient-history
"The kindness of a pawn shop owner will keep Washington's Lynden Pioneer Museum from having to <broken link removed> and return them to the owners to comply with a new state law. Initiative 594, which voters passed earlier this month, requires background checks on all firearms transfers except between family members. There is no exception in the law for loans to museums. The museum had planned to return the firearms to owners before the law takes effect Dec. 4. But the owner of Pistol Annie's Jewelry and Pawn offered to do the background check on the museum director and when the firearms are returned do the checks on the owners. "
My 2c: If you can, throw some business Pistol Annie's way.
Here is the same follow up:
http://reason.com/brickbat/2014/11/28/ancient-history
"The kindness of a pawn shop owner will keep Washington's Lynden Pioneer Museum from having to <broken link removed> and return them to the owners to comply with a new state law. Initiative 594, which voters passed earlier this month, requires background checks on all firearms transfers except between family members. There is no exception in the law for loans to museums. The museum had planned to return the firearms to owners before the law takes effect Dec. 4. But the owner of Pistol Annie's Jewelry and Pawn offered to do the background check on the museum director and when the firearms are returned do the checks on the owners. "
My 2c: If you can, throw some business Pistol Annie's way.
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Very cool of them. here is their website if someone wants to buy something or leave feedback.
http://anniesjewelryandpawn.com/
https://www.facebook.com/PawnBonneyLake
http://anniesjewelryandpawn.com/
https://www.facebook.com/PawnBonneyLake
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I don't often have much to say about pawn shops, but that was pretty awesome!
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